State of SA

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Re: State of SA

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sloandog wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm
Zimco wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:31 pm
Yeah they have depth, all I'm saying is they should be doing this well against Pakistan and generally. They are a premier side. there is a massive hole in their pipeline and structure, which affects their end product.
Yea they should be beating Pakistan.

They've unearned three gems here in Malan, Verreyne and the more established Markram. LINDE is another
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Re: State of SA

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Verreynne won't hang around for long in South African set up if he is going to have to wait for ages to get a game despite being, probably, the best batsman in the squad.

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Re: State of SA

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sam_ahm wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:16 pm
Verreynne won't hang around for long in South African set up if he is going to have to wait for ages to get a game despite being, probably, the best batsman in the squad.
Its a joke. What a talented bloke he is

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He's a gun wicket keeper too

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Klaassen didn't get a single game whereas Phehlu continues to play as a batsmen (bc he has not bowled a single over in last few matches)

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Re: State of SA

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sloandog wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm
He's a gun wicket keeper too
Yes, he could have even got a game ahead of Klaseen.

They go in with 4 specialist batsmen and get bowled out for 144. Don't you think Boucher is overrated as a coach? Haven't seen him do anything special until now, results aren't good either and his team selection and team combination is pathetic at times.

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Re: State of SA

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sam_ahm wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:24 pm
sloandog wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm
He's a gun wicket keeper too
Yes, he could have even got a game ahead of Klaseen.

They go in with 4 specialist batsmen and get bowled out for 144. Don't you think Boucher is overrated as a coach? Haven't seen him do anything special until now, results aren't good either and his team selection and team combination is pathetic at times.

Why should he get a game ahead of Klaassen? What the fudge is Phehlukwayo doing in the team if he's not bowling?

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Apparently he's injured

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Re: State of SA

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franco vazquez wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:29 pm
sam_ahm wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:24 pm
sloandog wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm
He's a gun wicket keeper too
Yes, he could have even got a game ahead of Klaseen.

They go in with 4 specialist batsmen and get bowled out for 144. Don't you think Boucher is overrated as a coach? Haven't seen him do anything special until now, results aren't good either and his team selection and team combination is pathetic at times.

Why should he get a game ahead of Klaassen? What the fudge is Phehlukwayo doing in the team if he's not bowling?
They won't compromise on transformation targets, they cannot as it is a mandate. At least rotate the white players so that they keep everyone in the frame.

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Re: State of SA

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Okay so let's have a look at what can be taken away from this series.

The coach/selectors:
For me, Mark Boucher has been far from good enough here as the coach. I appreciate he may not have as much pull as other coaches around the world (due to this ridiculous system), but his plans seem overwhelmingly uninspiring. Charl Langaveldt and Justin Ontong should not be in their positions full stop, as they didn't have a particularly fledgling career themselves. I find it so hypocritical when I see a coach of their background giving advice to young players who have oodles more talent than they ever had. The system could have Alan Donald/Ntini as the bowling coach, Jacques Kallis as the batting coach (not some ridiculous consulting role), Johnny Rhodes as fielding coach and Paul Adams as the spin bowling coach. Gary Kisrsten or Kepler Wessels incharge of this side would make a big difference.
What has Victor Mpitsang done in his career to be in the position of head selector?? Embarrassing.

The team:
1 million times over this side could have had better selected players in the starting XI.

Centrally contracted Beaurin Hendricks :oops: should be absolutely nowhere near this side. He bowls no more than 82mph, can't swing it, can't bat and seems to be ridiculously unimaginative when it comes to thinking outside the box. NANDRE BURGER should be playing.

Sisanda Magala has shown that he has pace but clearly is not fit for anything more than T20 cricket. I know he came back in that second game but Jesus! That over was so poor it didn't even deserve the be seen at club level. You can't have a player like that starting when you have Wiaan Muelder in the squad. What a talent he is! In fact, forget Muelder for a moment. GERALD COETZEE should have been playing in this series, if he was fit of course. He bowls in the mid 140's regularly and he hits a long long ball. Corbin Bosch or even Thando Ntini would have been a better selection than Magala. Atleast the latter two have age on their side and they are sharp!

Pite Van Biljion:
What is going on here, seriously? :( My eyes hurt when I see his name in a South African squad, let alone a starting XI. I don't think I've ever seen a batter look more out of his depth than this man. He's rushed by pace, can't rotate the strike and sadly does not have age on his side. I'm not slating his person at all. I've heard he works hard and is a good team man, but when you have a gun like Kyle Verreyne in the squad sitting and not playing, questions need to be asked as to why he was ever even included. Not good enough and the selectors (what a joke) need to move on.

Wiaan Lubbe:
Slogger, at best. Not good enough and showed a complete disregard for his wicket which pissed me off. I don't think I saw a single off side shot. Move on CSA.
If you want a talented, young left handed batter, get De Zorzi in there or Ryan Rickleton. They are both so talented and hit the ball incredibly hard. In fact, De Zorzi could play a big part in the full ODI side he's that good.



South African cricket is not going to improve is the above players are involved. Period. They have a strong, functioning system and yet they manage to trip over the guns and select the duds. So incredibly dissaponting as this could have been a series where young players were involved, not FC stalwarts getting a deserved shot at national selection.

Keegan Peterson
De Zorzi
Thando Ntini
Gerald Coetzee
Jannaman Malan
Aiden Markram
Marco Jansen
Sipamla (tests)
Kyle Verreyne
Reynard Van Tonder

Names to either include now or in the next 12 months.

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