Re: 2nd Unofficial Odi | Zimbabwe A V/s South Africa A | Harare
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 2:19 pm
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Bangladesh spinners are stagnating. Taijul and Miraz haven't bowled well since the pandemic started. On the other hand, the seamers have a lot of promise. Taskin is bowling the right line and length at pace, Ebadat is now an express bowler, Shoriful is genuinely quick (~140 km) and bowls with maturity, and Abu Jayed has taken wickets against teams like India and Pakistan. A seam friendly wicket can easily backfire.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:04 am. Next series is against Bangladesh, if this type of pitch is prepared Bangladesh Spinners will rip apart Zim, if they prepare pitch with assistance to pacers they can win few matches even the series.
Accept your views, but check when the pacers have taken wickets in logest format i,e the match situation. In recent test series against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh pacers have taken wickets when the Sri Lankan batters were tired, when the match was fully in the grip of their batters, same thing happened against Pakistan & India. The Fizz is best in slow & flat then seam friendly tracks.Have seen all all of them struggled in seam friendly conditions of New Zealand. Though Zim & NZ can't be compared but still Zim is ahead then Bangladesh when it comes to playing in seam friendly pitches.Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 5:58 pmBangladesh spinners are stagnating. Taijul and Miraz haven't bowled well since the pandemic started. On the other hand, the seamers have a lot of promise. Taskin is bowling the right line and length at pace, Ebadat is now an express bowler, Shoriful is genuinely quick (~140 km) and bowls with maturity, and Abu Jayed has taken wickets against teams like India and Pakistan. A seam friendly wicket can easily backfire.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:04 am. Next series is against Bangladesh, if this type of pitch is prepared Bangladesh Spinners will rip apart Zim, if they prepare pitch with assistance to pacers they can win few matches even the series.
Firstly batters don't get tired in Test cricket. Not unless they've scored a double or triple ton. None of the Indian or Pakistani batsmen scored double tons against us in the WTC. In fact, Kohli was dismissed for a duck. That's like saying ZIM only got Babar Azam out because he was tired of batting.
Accept your views, but check when the pacers have taken wickets in logest format i,e the match situation. In recent test series against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh pacers have taken wickets when the Sri Lankan batters were tired, when the match was fully in the grip of their batters, same thing happened against Pakistan & India. The Fizz is best in slow & flat then seam friendly tracks.Have seen all all of them struggled in seam friendly conditions of New Zealand. Though Zim & NZ can't be compared but still Zim is ahead then Bangladesh when it comes to playing in seam friendly pitches.
Zim will do huge mistake if they offer tracks like Pakistan series against Bangladesh.It wont backfire but new pacers from Zim who are good at exposing seam friendly conditions can give a neck to neck fight.
Chameera troubled Bangladesh batters with seam movement, it was Musfiqur's technique that saved them recently. Shakib, Liton is out of form.Muzarabani, Nayuchi and if Zim gets services of Jarvis then a good competition is expected in seam assisting pitch.
Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:53 pmFirstly batters don't get tired in Test cricket. Not unless they've scored a double or triple ton. None of the Indian or Pakistani batsmen scored double tons against us in the WTC. In fact, Kohli was dismissed for a duck. That's like saying ZIM only got Babar Azam out because he was tired of batting.
Accept your views, but check when the pacers have taken wickets in logest format i,e the match situation. In recent test series against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh pacers have taken wickets when the Sri Lankan batters were tired, when the match was fully in the grip of their batters, same thing happened against Pakistan & India. The Fizz is best in slow & flat then seam friendly tracks.Have seen all all of them struggled in seam friendly conditions of New Zealand. Though Zim & NZ can't be compared but still Zim is ahead then Bangladesh when it comes to playing in seam friendly pitches.
Zim will do huge mistake if they offer tracks like Pakistan series against Bangladesh.It wont backfire but new pacers from Zim who are good at exposing seam friendly conditions can give a neck to neck fight.
Chameera troubled Bangladesh batters with seam movement, it was Musfiqur's technique that saved them recently. Shakib, Liton is out of form.Muzarabani, Nayuchi and if Zim gets services of Jarvis then a good competition is expected in seam assisting pitch.
Chameera actually troubled BD with swing, not seam. The ball was primarily moving through the air. Taskin was troubling SL batters with seam movement off the pitch.
A seaming wickets will provide good cricket but it will also bring the BD seamers into the game.
Lets look at fall of wicket when the BD seamers took the wickets:Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:12 am
Don't make false claims.!!!
In both these test matches, Bangladesh pacers got wickets when the match was fully one sided
Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:15 amLets look at fall of wicket when the BD seamers took the wickets:Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:12 am
Don't make false claims.!!!
In both these test matches, Bangladesh pacers got wickets when the match was fully one sided
Rohit c Das b Jayed (FoW = 14)...India still trailing Bangladesh
Pujara c Saif b Jayed (FoW = 105)...surely India weren't tired after just batting for 29.5 overs
Kohli lbw Jayed (FoW =119)...119 for 3 isn't a mammoth 2nd innings total
Rahane c Taijul b Jayed (FoW = 309)... this is the first one so far that you can count as a "meaningless wicket" given the match situation
Saha b Ebadat (FoW = 454)...yes I'll give you this one
Rohit lbw Ebadat (FoW = 43)...were India tired after 12.5 overs? this was actually a good delivery too massive movement in off the seam as Rohit left it
Pujara c Shadman b Ebadat (FoW = 137)...sensational delivery bowled at 135 clicks with extra bounce jagging in to catch the outside edge of the shoulder of the bat
Yes the remaining wickets were meaningless wickets, true.
But here we have 5 wickets from Abu Jayed and Ebadat that were taken at the top of the order and every time the team total was under 150 at the time the wicket fell.
Further, following your logic, the ZIM seamers won't pose any problems to the BD team because they only took wickets against Pakistan when the match was all over inside 2 days. Babar Azam didn't need to score any runs because they still won by an innings without him, just like Kohli vs Bangladesh. Additionally, if Kohli wasn't interested in scoring runs against Bangladesh or didn't need to score runs, why and how did he get a century in the 2nd Test? Many questions, not many answers.
Contrary to my posts, I actually do think the coming BD-ZIM series will be a very close one and that ZIM has every chance of winning the Test and T20 series, although I think Bangladesh will win the ODIs 2-1 or 3-0. Now if Zimbabwe are missing more than 1 or 2 senior players, I'd wager Bangladesh winning all the series.