Taylor vs Kaitano: between two extremes

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Taylor vs Kaitano: between two extremes

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Kaitano and Taylor make for a goof case study. One hit 7 from 100+ deliveries and the other 90 odd from just 70. IMO, neither was well suited for saving a game.

Firstly, saving this game isnt a crazy proposition. You only need to bat out aprox 4 sessions and the pitch is still very flat as of day 4. It's one thing to have to bat out two whole days or 3 sessions on a minefield.

The best approach would have been somewhere in between. An innings like Mominuls in the 1st innings (strike rate of 65) or Shanto in the 2nd (strike of 80 for most of the innings). Those two innings were neither defensive nor attacking every ball bowled.

Curious to see how ZCFers feel.
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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:26 pm
Kaitano and Taylor make for a goof case study. One hit 7 from 100+ deliveries and the other 90 odd from just 70. IMO, neither was well suited for saving a game.

Firstly, saving this game isnt a crazy proposition. You only need to bat out aprox 4 sessions and the pitch is still very flat as of day 4. It's one thing to have to bat out two whole days or 3 sessions on a minefield.

The best approach would have been somewhere in between. An innings like Mominuls in the 1st innings (strike rate of 65) or Shanto in the 2nd (strike of 80 for most of the innings). Those two innings were neither defensive nor attacking every ball bowled.

Curious to see how ZCFers feel.
I agree 100% Taylor's aggression is unwarranted in this situation, 1. Hes the capt and needed to anchor the innings, 2. He has Maruma and Kaia coming after him, playes who woefully fall short of international cricket standards. He should have at least slowed down as he approached his 100. Kaitanos batting is extreme, it reek of FEAR, no bowling attack EVER shoukd be treated with this level of cowadice. Pujara, Dravid and other plodders score runs while playing defensively. Any professional batsmen should bag at least 100 runs from 300+ balls. Blocking and keaving all day is not test batting, if you put away the bad balks, rotate the strike etc, the bloody fundamentals, theres no way you should be having a strike rate in single digits.

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I think my views are well known on this.

I would add that Taylor's aggression is slightly warranted. If he was as lax as Kaitano, the pressure would have been immense. He had to release some of it and because the other end was fast asleep, he had to do so at a higher rate than normal. A ticking scoreboard worries fielders and bowlers.

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Taylor's aggression was exactly the innings needed due to Kaitano's moribund innings. A limited player like Kaitano will only work if the guy down the other end doesn't feel pressure. You put two Kaitano's out there and the pressure would be unmanageable.

Honestly I think Taylor is a class above his team mates and the Bangladeshi bowlers, too bad he couldn't hang around longer.
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Individually, the two knocks look atrocious, but probably together, in a partnership, they were perfect foil for each other. It is possible that we ended without more damage because they both played that way together.

If Kaitano had rotated the strike and given it back to Taylor more often, there was no guarantee that Taylor would have still continued to succeed. The more you get to face in such a mood, the more high risk it becomes. So, the cooling down that was happening as he waited at the other end when Kaitano closed out an over was probably making sure Taylor's adrenaline rush was in check.

Also, from Kaitano's point of view, as he prepared himself for a blockathon knowing how Taylor would approach it, the fact that Taylor went about in such a manner meant that the BD bowlers had a hard time adjusting and could not afford to be more aggressive with fields even for Kaitano given what was going on at the other end. This worked well for him to continue his dogged defense.

If you look at it, it looks like an outstanding game plan, if ever there was one :)

While all this was happening, we were going along at nearly 4 an over on the 4th evening. We can look at 140/3 and feel that it could have been 200/2 or whatever else. It could also have become 90/5 had both of them perished trying anything different in their own games than what they did.

So, it is together, as a partnership, that we need to look at it, and it was one of the most enjoyable ones for me and also worked perfectly in the context. Ideally, if they had both made it to day 5, things would have been great, but this kind of a partnership was the best alternative to both the guys going at an SR of 60.

In that sense the most positive partnership under pressure I have watched post readmission was the one between Hamilton and Moor vs WI (in 2018?) where after we were 14/3 or something Moor came in and infused positivity and both of them played some delightful cover drives that are still etched in memory on the way to something like a 140 run partnership. Moor making 70 odd and Hamilton later going onto 140 odd.

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I don't think the suggestion is that Kaitano should be playing at the same rate as BT, but definitely not at less than 7 SR.

If that is his natural game, then it's already not going to work out for him and it's just having a player at the top of the order that is going to drag.

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Eating up balls is not a test cricket

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Yes, no, maybe.

Taylor could have been more circumspect. But he fell to a boo boo not a hoick.

Most of his boundries were just class drives through attacking fields.

Kaitano ought to have been 20 off 100 for sure.

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"Instead of just sitting around, I wanted to be a little proactive, and try to send a message to the guys that the wicket is still playing okay. Hopefully I have done that."
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This tweet sum ups everything. Mentality. All the plaudits about KT eating up ball are worthless. BT went out there to be proactive. KT did not.

As for the rest, well we all knew that the likes of Maruma and co are useless. BT is a one man team fighting on his own. The rest, including the coaching staff are just not willing to be on this level, and this is why we keep getting beat soundly.

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Still think KT is getting unwarranted grief.
He showed mental toughness, something we've been lacking for a very very long time at the top.

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