My point is 10 or 11 to get in the final over is a tricky chase, wickets in hand will not matter because a wicket is a dot ball. If that 18th over was tighter we had a good chance. I have seen many Zim defenses, we have won when there is at least a few runs going into the final over. Sometimes our losses are our own doingRajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:05 pmIn a T20 game even 40 is chasable in 18 balls if 8 wickets are in hand.CholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:02 pmNo. It is all about the final over, have at least 9 to defend and you have a chance. That Ngarava over, every staunch supporter knew that was going for runs, how can Raza not know that, nonsense this team
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Where is the experience?. Present group is not capable of such tough ask, neither they have come through such type of situation, last time i found any Zim bowler to do that with a succes, was Nevil Madziva against Dhoni but in that case ask was 6 in 1 ball, which generally goes on bowlers wayCholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:13 pmMy point is 10 or 11 to get in the final over is a tricky chase, wickets in hand will not matter because a wicket is a dot ball. If that 18th over was tighter we had a good chance. I have seen many Zim defenses, we have won when there is at least a few runs going into the final over. Sometimes our losses are our own doingRajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:05 pmIn a T20 game even 40 is chasable in 18 balls if 8 wickets are in hand.CholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:02 pm
No. It is all about the final over, have at least 9 to defend and you have a chance. That Ngarava over, every staunch supporter knew that was going for runs, how can Raza not know that, nonsense this team
T20 game is changed now, and Bangladesh players also have some experience with leagues, they have the chasing calculations in mind
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u stop playing cricket Zimbabwe
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This game was not lost When Richard came in to bowl. If he had brought in Wes to bowl that over and Wes goes for runs that is justifiable, but to bring your worst bowler on the day to bowl that over is senseless. Don't why these guys are failing to see that. Get to the final over with 10 or 11 to defend and you may win a game without even taking a wicket, simple.secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:12 pmSorry but bringing on a guy who has been slogged all over the park and is bang out of form to bowl a crucial over when you still have a tiny chance of winning is unforgiveable. How can you defend that captaincy? It's lunacy.lobsang wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:10 pmsecretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:01 pm
It was 27 off 18 and at that point there is a definite (small) chance. Absolutely abysmal captaincy by Raza.
calling that abysmal is ridiculous indeed you really need to grow up buddy. If that 18th over yielded a wicket and few runs. You would be saying "what a good captaincy". The match was literally lost in the first innings. 90-2 at the start of 11th over, they should have at least scored 175 plus runs.
And I am probably the world's number 1 Sikandar Raza fan. I don't criticise him lightly, at all.
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Read to understand! Rather get to the final over with at least 10 or 11 to defend and we could have done that if anyone else was bowling besides Ngarava. Anyone can panic in the last over and miss 2 deliveries, next thing you need boundaries and that is not easy if the bowler is bowling accurately. We still could have lost yes, but we just had to put ourselves in a position where we can win. If you still do not get this point, then just leave it. I'm sure cricket people on here do.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:17 pmWhere is the experience?. Present group is not capable of such tough ask, neither they have come through such type of situation, last time i found any Zim bowler to do that with a succes, was Nevil Madziva against Dhoni but in that case ask was 6 in 1 ball, which generally goes on bowlers wayCholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:13 pmMy point is 10 or 11 to get in the final over is a tricky chase, wickets in hand will not matter because a wicket is a dot ball. If that 18th over was tighter we had a good chance. I have seen many Zim defenses, we have won when there is at least a few runs going into the final over. Sometimes our losses are our own doingRajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:05 pm
In a T20 game even 40 is chasable in 18 balls if 8 wickets are in hand.
T20 game is changed now, and Bangladesh players also have some experience with leagues, they have the chasing calculations in mind
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Clearly you do not know the game as much as you think you do hey. And you do not read to understand. People are saying if we brought in someone to be decent and concede 7 in that over, which a Wes had the potential to do, it would be 20 needed of 12, then possibly 11 of 6 needed. Even if you have 100 wickets in hand, how does that matter? please answer this.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:58 pmSeems new in watching T20 game. 20 runs in 16 balls with 8 wickets remaining isnt considered crucial juncture in T20 game
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In 11 overs Zim were 92 and the target the gave was 152, 60 runs were scored in last 9 overs @6 an over, the game was finished there.
Zim lower order comprising of Musakanda, Burl, Jongwe failed to deliver late bursts. After Elton Zim havent found a good finisher, Tiripano & Moor were improving when they batted at this position, but present ones lack hard hitting skills.
Doesnt know wheather these boys does base ball hitting drills or not, which has been adopted by top teams for developing hard hitting skills.
Zim lower order comprising of Musakanda, Burl, Jongwe failed to deliver late bursts. After Elton Zim havent found a good finisher, Tiripano & Moor were improving when they batted at this position, but present ones lack hard hitting skills.
Doesnt know wheather these boys does base ball hitting drills or not, which has been adopted by top teams for developing hard hitting skills.
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You are thinking too much on ifs & buts. Its a T20 game think in a T20 way, even a decent bowler cant make you win with 8 wickets remaining hand and 18 balls remaining, such situation only mattered if Zim had taken away 5 wickets.CholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:32 pmClearly you do not know the game as much as you think you do hey. And you do not read to understand. People are saying if we brought in someone to be decent and concede 7 in that over, which a Wes had the potential to do, it would be 20 needed of 12, then possibly 11 of 6 needed. Even if you have 100 wickets in hand, how does that matter? please answer this.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:58 pmSeems new in watching T20 game. 20 runs in 16 balls with 8 wickets remaining isnt considered crucial juncture in T20 game
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I wouldn't bother mate. Echo chamber! He doesn't read other peoples posts.CholeZimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:32 pmClearly you do not know the game as much as you think you do hey. And you do not read to understand. People are saying if we brought in someone to be decent and concede 7 in that over, which a Wes had the potential to do, it would be 20 needed of 12, then possibly 11 of 6 needed. Even if you have 100 wickets in hand, how does that matter? please answer this.Rajkumar Sharma wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:58 pmSeems new in watching T20 game. 20 runs in 16 balls with 8 wickets remaining isnt considered crucial juncture in T20 game