Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
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Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
In fairness, I couldn't believe how good his technique was during that innings. He played an on drive for 4 which was just sumptuous. Obviously runs are needed too, but he looked like he could really play
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Hmm, not much to instill confidence for sure.secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:51 pmhttps://www.play-cricket.com/player_sta ... ab=batting
Looks like he bowled well but batting nothing to shout about.
Yeah, batsman who bowls a bit.
Would have been better off than Maruma and Kaia earlier this year when senior guys were away due to injury, for sure. For me, it is a direct battle - Musakanda vs Munyonga. This is for batting backup spot anyway, not a direct entry into the XI, so let us see...
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Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
I've copied & pasted the career performances of Munyonga. All matches are LC. Last year was his best so far.
First-Class Batting and Fielding in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 4 6 0 144 71 24.00 0 1 1
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 6 7 1 122 77 20.33 0 1 9
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 6 11 1 197 54 19.70 0 1 10
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 4 7 0 240 79 34.28 0 2 6
First-Class Bowling in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 324 6 201 1 1-38 201.00 0 0
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 371 6 222 6 2-26 37.00 0 0
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 223 4 103 5 5-99 20.60 1 0
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 405 5 244 8 4-35 30.50 0 0
First-Class Batting and Fielding in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 4 6 0 144 71 24.00 0 1 1
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 6 7 1 122 77 20.33 0 1 9
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 6 11 1 197 54 19.70 0 1 10
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 4 7 0 240 79 34.28 0 2 6
First-Class Bowling in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 324 6 201 1 1-38 201.00 0 0
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 371 6 222 6 2-26 37.00 0 0
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 223 4 103 5 5-99 20.60 1 0
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 405 5 244 8 4-35 30.50 0 0
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Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
Pretty disappointing figuures really.cricket_22001 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:20 pmI've copied & pasted the career performances of Munyonga. All matches are LC. Last year was his best so far.
First-Class Batting and Fielding in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 4 6 0 144 71 24.00 0 1 1
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 6 7 1 122 77 20.33 0 1 9
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 6 11 1 197 54 19.70 0 1 10
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 4 7 0 240 79 34.28 0 2 6
Hopefully though the longer season this year allows us a better sample size and better view of guys like him.
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Thanks for this.cricket_22001 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:20 pmI've copied & pasted the career performances of Munyonga. All matches are LC. Last year was his best so far.
First-Class Batting and Fielding in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 4 6 0 144 71 24.00 0 1 1
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 6 7 1 122 77 20.33 0 1 9
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 6 11 1 197 54 19.70 0 1 10
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 4 7 0 240 79 34.28 0 2 6
First-Class Bowling in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 324 6 201 1 1-38 201.00 0 0
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 371 6 222 6 2-26 37.00 0 0
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 223 4 103 5 5-99 20.60 1 0
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 405 5 244 8 4-35 30.50 0 0
Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
I think his figures don't really do him justice. So often when he comes in with his team in difficulties, he is the guy with the calm head who hangs in there and stabilizes things, a very good temperament for that.secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:04 pmPretty disappointing figuures really.cricket_22001 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:20 pmI've copied & pasted the career performances of Munyonga. All matches are LC. Last year was his best so far.
First-Class Batting and Fielding in Each Season by Tony Munyonga
Season Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St
2017-18 (Zimbabwe) 4 6 0 144 71 24.00 0 1 1
2018-19 (Zimbabwe) 6 7 1 122 77 20.33 0 1 9
2019-20 (Zimbabwe) 6 11 1 197 54 19.70 0 1 10
2020-21 (Zimbabwe) 4 7 0 240 79 34.28 0 2 6
Hopefully though the longer season this year allows us a better sample size and better view of guys like him.
Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
The one thing i've always struggled when reading into the averages surrounding players in the Logan cup is having never played in Zimbabwe and certainly not at first class level, can anybody tell me what the pitches are actually like that are produced. Is it a case of batsmen just faltering on flat tracks all the time because the fact that what 10-15 guys if that have averaged over 40 is a bit of a joke in the last 20 years?
Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
Interesting.
It's probably a combination of many things-
Pitches age. I don't recall ever seeing a pitch get replaced here. The WACA got flatter, do all pitches do the same or do some get spicier? Does ageing make them more or less receptive to spin?
The pitches definitely don't get watered as often as they used to. There used to be a better general upkeep on pitches, these days they tend to be ignored and then some last minute prep work goes into readying them for a game, that must have an effect.
We now have water problems here, there's often shortages.
An ex player like Gary Brent who's still around would be a good guy to ask, or maybe John Ward.
The general rule of thumb is that pitches tend to do a lot more in the morning and then tend to flatten out and get less bounce after lunch. We're in the tropics and it gets damned hot and dry and any hint of moisture in the pitch tends to evaporate by early afternoon and I'd say that makes it harder work for the seamers but it will turn more for the spinners, but probably less bounce. I've seen a lot of pitches behave like this, particularly school pitches.
Are the batters, particularly the openers, not as good as they were 20 years ago? Again I'd have to say yes, we played more games and there were probably more good players back then playing a higher standard of cricket and the pitches were probably generally better prepared.
I'm a bit hesitant to go firm because sport as a general rule tends to improve. Its like Bjorn Borg vs Nadal. What us older guys remember to be top drawer may not be as good as we recall. The single greatest thing to improve batting has probably been the sidearm. A batsman doesn't have to wait for Mike Proctor or Brandes or Olonga to run in at him, his fat mate can send it down for an hour at the same pace with the dog stick. Protective gear has got a lot better as well, giving batters more confidence than before.
Hard to say, I'd be interested to hear what others think.
Just my 10c worth, I'm honestly not sure.
It's probably a combination of many things-
Pitches age. I don't recall ever seeing a pitch get replaced here. The WACA got flatter, do all pitches do the same or do some get spicier? Does ageing make them more or less receptive to spin?
The pitches definitely don't get watered as often as they used to. There used to be a better general upkeep on pitches, these days they tend to be ignored and then some last minute prep work goes into readying them for a game, that must have an effect.
We now have water problems here, there's often shortages.
An ex player like Gary Brent who's still around would be a good guy to ask, or maybe John Ward.
The general rule of thumb is that pitches tend to do a lot more in the morning and then tend to flatten out and get less bounce after lunch. We're in the tropics and it gets damned hot and dry and any hint of moisture in the pitch tends to evaporate by early afternoon and I'd say that makes it harder work for the seamers but it will turn more for the spinners, but probably less bounce. I've seen a lot of pitches behave like this, particularly school pitches.
Are the batters, particularly the openers, not as good as they were 20 years ago? Again I'd have to say yes, we played more games and there were probably more good players back then playing a higher standard of cricket and the pitches were probably generally better prepared.
I'm a bit hesitant to go firm because sport as a general rule tends to improve. Its like Bjorn Borg vs Nadal. What us older guys remember to be top drawer may not be as good as we recall. The single greatest thing to improve batting has probably been the sidearm. A batsman doesn't have to wait for Mike Proctor or Brandes or Olonga to run in at him, his fat mate can send it down for an hour at the same pace with the dog stick. Protective gear has got a lot better as well, giving batters more confidence than before.
Hard to say, I'd be interested to hear what others think.
Just my 10c worth, I'm honestly not sure.
Re: Logan Cup 15-18 Oct | Eagles V Rocks | Mountaineers V Rhinos
Also back then in longer format, teams would go at two and a bit an over. These days with T20 and 50 over being played it has big affect on scoring rates in 4 day stuff. All but the most very disciplined will play more shots. The more shots you play in long cricket the more chance you have of going out. What would be interesting is a statistical comparison of how people got out- then vs now. One would have to assume there's a lot more caughts now.
The only two Pujara,-like batters we've really seen here in more recent years have been Tino Mawoyo and Eddie Byrom. They never really played a shot in anger unless it was exactly the right delivery.
The only two Pujara,-like batters we've really seen here in more recent years have been Tino Mawoyo and Eddie Byrom. They never really played a shot in anger unless it was exactly the right delivery.