U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Indian cricket doesn't involve age fraud infact they are playing this youth world cup with fresh players none of them have been retained, whereas some of the teams have retained the players from the previous batch.

When it comes to Shami, his wife brought charges of cheating and domestic abuse against him, Board had issued investigation against him found no evidence cleared him from all charges later it was found his wife was culprit.

BCCI selects under 19 probables in domestic tournaments through bone test and there is no chance of age fraud.BCCI now adopted a policy where none of the under 19 players will be retained for world cups only fresh players will be eligible for selection.

ICC should adopt this bone test module under the supervision of a medical team, so that real under 19 gets picked for every nation

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:43 am
TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Indian cricket doesn't involve age fraud infact they are playing this youth world cup with fresh players none of them have been retained, whereas some of the teams have retained the players from the previous batch.

When it comes to Shami, his wife brought charges of cheating and domestic abuse against him, Board had issued investigation against him found no evidence cleared him from all charges later it was found his wife was culprit.

BCCI selects under 19 probables in domestic tournaments through bone test and there is no chance of age fraud.BCCI now adopted a policy where none of the under 19 players will be retained for world cups only fresh players will be eligible for selection.

ICC should adopt this bone test process so that real under 19 gets picked for every nation
I dont think they do age fraud anymore but...

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/has ... -so-541719
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/age-fr ... 37410.html
https://www.crictoast.com/cricketers-ba ... age-fraud/

Even the Indian cricket forum seem to think Shami is older than he actually is

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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slcricfan1 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:51 am
Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:43 am
TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Indian cricket doesn't involve age fraud infact they are playing this youth world cup with fresh players none of them have been retained, whereas some of the teams have retained the players from the previous batch.

When it comes to Shami, his wife brought charges of cheating and domestic abuse against him, Board had issued investigation against him found no evidence cleared him from all charges later it was found his wife was culprit.

BCCI selects under 19 probables in domestic tournaments through bone test and there is no chance of age fraud.BCCI now adopted a policy where none of the under 19 players will be retained for world cups only fresh players will be eligible for selection.

ICC should adopt this bone test process so that real under 19 gets picked for every nation
I dont think they do age fraud anymore but...

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/has ... -so-541719
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/age-fr ... 37410.html
https://www.crictoast.com/cricketers-ba ... age-fraud/

Even the Indian cricket forum seem to think Shami is older than he actually is
Shami had differant issue.

Yes after this controversy they have adopted bone test module which gives exact age as per medical grounds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofi ... 782475.cms

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:54 am
slcricfan1 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:51 am
Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:43 am
Indian cricket doesn't involve age fraud infact they are playing this youth world cup with fresh players none of them have been retained, whereas some of the teams have retained the players from the previous batch.

When it comes to Shami, his wife brought charges of cheating and domestic abuse against him, Board had issued investigation against him found no evidence cleared him from all charges later it was found his wife was culprit.

BCCI selects under 19 probables in domestic tournaments through bone test and there is no chance of age fraud.BCCI now adopted a policy where none of the under 19 players will be retained for world cups only fresh players will be eligible for selection.

ICC should adopt this bone test process so that real under 19 gets picked for every nation
I dont think they do age fraud anymore but...

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/has ... -so-541719
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/age-fr ... 37410.html
https://www.crictoast.com/cricketers-ba ... age-fraud/

Even the Indian cricket forum seem to think Shami is older than he actually is
Shami had differant issue.

Yes after this controversy they have adopted bone test module which gives exact age as per medical grounds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofi ... 782475.cms
Good to see. We`ll see how old Shami acutually is in the net couple years I guess

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Naseem and Shaheen genuinely look like youngsters. Maybe not their stated age, but they were teens on debut, I can believe that. Same with Mujeeb of Afghanistan.

Rashid Khan's listed age is 23. If he starts to suck in another 7 years and retires or is dropped due to extended poor form, we can say he really was 5+ years older than his listed age. He might be...I'm just saying I don't know one way or the other. I'm agnostic.

Do Asian teams cheat with their ages? Yes, but its not every player. At least not anymore.
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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:54 am
slcricfan1 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:51 am
Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:43 am


Indian cricket doesn't involve age fraud infact they are playing this youth world cup with fresh players none of them have been retained, whereas some of the teams have retained the players from the previous batch.

When it comes to Shami, his wife brought charges of cheating and domestic abuse against him, Board had issued investigation against him found no evidence cleared him from all charges later it was found his wife was culprit.

BCCI selects under 19 probables in domestic tournaments through bone test and there is no chance of age fraud.BCCI now adopted a policy where none of the under 19 players will be retained for world cups only fresh players will be eligible for selection.

ICC should adopt this bone test process so that real under 19 gets picked for every nation
I dont think they do age fraud anymore but...

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/has ... -so-541719
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/age-fr ... 37410.html
https://www.crictoast.com/cricketers-ba ... age-fraud/

Even the Indian cricket forum seem to think Shami is older than he actually is
Shami had differant issue.

Yes after this controversy they have adopted bone test module which gives exact age as per medical grounds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofi ... 782475.cms
Oh come on Raj, stop shifting the goalposts, you just said India doesn’t do age cheating and we’re presented evidence of prominent Indian cricketing legends saying “Age cheating in a scourge in India comparable to match fixing”..,now it’s only Shami!! The system is rotten and these individual associations cannot be trusted to police themselves

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Tinah09 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:16 am
Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:54 am
slcricfan1 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:51 am


I dont think they do age fraud anymore but...

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/has ... -so-541719
https://www.firstpost.com/sports/age-fr ... 37410.html
https://www.crictoast.com/cricketers-ba ... age-fraud/

Even the Indian cricket forum seem to think Shami is older than he actually is
Shami had differant issue.

Yes after this controversy they have adopted bone test module which gives exact age as per medical grounds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofi ... 782475.cms
Oh come on Raj, stop shifting the goalposts, you just said India doesn’t do age cheating and we’re presented evidence of prominent Indian cricketing legends saying “Age cheating in a scourge in India comparable to match fixing”..,now it’s only Shami!! The system is rotten and these individual associations cannot be trusted to police themselves
Shami has not played age group cricket for India u19, neither he is playing now. Age cheating has been stopped after controversy grew up, now board has been vocal with it and have rectified, other boards neither have accepted age fraud nor they started procedure to find the age and select correct age group players.

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:55 am
TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Naseem and Shaheen genuinely look like youngsters. Maybe not their stated age, but they were teens on debut, I can believe that. Same with Mujeeb of Afghanistan.

Rashid Khan's listed age is 23. If he starts to suck in another 7 years and retires or is dropped due to extended poor form, we can say he really was 5+ years older than his listed age. He might be...I'm just saying I don't know one way or the other. I'm agnostic.

Do Asian teams cheat with their ages? Yes, but its not every player. At least not anymore.
Has SL cheated?

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Re: U19CWC: Zimbabwe U19s Vs Pakistan | 17th Jan 2022

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slcricfan1 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:40 am
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:55 am
TapsC2 wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 am
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-new ... an-pacers/

Mohammad Asif. As controversial as he was accusing Pakistan bowlers of being 28 instead of 17 or 18. Their own guy.

Then there is Naseem Shah who was seen as a bright 16 year old prospect in 2016 by Andy Roberts. Then you have Saj Sadiq saying he is a highly rated 17 year old at the beginning of 2018. His "official" age as it stands right now in 2022 is 18 somehow. He qualifies for this world cup :lol:

Shahid Afridi has confirmed he was born in 1975. He had an extra 5 years on him his whole career. Had him claiming to be 16 when he scored a 37 ball hundred against Kenya when he was actually 21. You literally have a 46 year old playing in the PSL.

Indian fast bowler Mohammad Shami's own wife says he has 4 documents with different ages. The oldest being from 1982. He is "officially" 32 this year but just look at him.

The one that takes the cup for me is the picture of Sam Curran at 14 and then Rashid Khan at "14" .

Look these are all great cricketing nations. We are not saying Zimbabwe is better, we are saying there is no need to cheat at that age. Yes I'm sure the competition for places is so stiff in these countries that people will do anything for a chance but the respective boards and the ICC need to do something about it. If not then Afghanistan will become the Nigerian version of cricket where they will win the u19 world cup regularly but never turn into a world class senior team.

Imagine we cut 5 years off Blessing and Ngarava's ages and had them playing at this world cup. What kind of damage do you think they would be doing? It's ridiculous.
Naseem and Shaheen genuinely look like youngsters. Maybe not their stated age, but they were teens on debut, I can believe that. Same with Mujeeb of Afghanistan.

Rashid Khan's listed age is 23. If he starts to suck in another 7 years and retires or is dropped due to extended poor form, we can say he really was 5+ years older than his listed age. He might be...I'm just saying I don't know one way or the other. I'm agnostic.

Do Asian teams cheat with their ages? Yes, but its not every player. At least not anymore.
Has SL cheated?
What about Milton Shumba, Wes Madhevere, ? 3 world cups without crossing 19 :lol:

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