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Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:47 am
by Tinah09
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:59 pm
This is a good point and should have been the card BT played. Even if these were friends of his.
Something is still weird though.
Why aren’t these businessmen the centre of scandal in the media?
Why aren’t they arrested?
Why aren’t they named?
Why did they casually have a confidential interview with that journo who said ‘it was actually 40k’.
Seems like peopel are treating those guys with the ‘lol these Indian bookies, always up to crazy tricks’ vibe.
I reckon the matchfixing kingpins are deeply entrenched within Indian politics, powerbrokers and elite. They are probably untouchable. With the widening gulf in cricketing wealth between the haves (England, Aussie, England) and the have nots (damn near everyone else), the scourge of matchfixing is only going to get worse. I’m getting to the stage where I don’t blame poor folks for considering to throw matches
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:08 pm
by ZIMDOGGY
Tinah09 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:47 am
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:59 pm
This is a good point and should have been the card BT played. Even if these were friends of his.
Something is still weird though.
Why aren’t these businessmen the centre of scandal in the media?
Why aren’t they arrested?
Why aren’t they named?
Why did they casually have a confidential interview with that journo who said ‘it was actually 40k’.
Seems like peopel are treating those guys with the ‘lol these Indian bookies, always up to crazy tricks’ vibe.
I reckon the matchfixing kingpins are deeply entrenched within Indian politics, powerbrokers and elite. They are probably untouchable. With the widening gulf in cricketing wealth between the haves (England, Aussie, England) and the have nots (damn near everyone else), the scourge of matchfixing is only going to get worse. I’m getting to the stage where I don’t blame poor folks for considering to throw matches
I dont think its the hardest crime to get away with and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.
Most of what we know have come from whistleblowers.
Pakistan especially i reckon fixing is everyday life. Extremely inconsistent performances for years.
I almost think its at the point where kids dream of one day playing for Pakistan 'to play tests, play a world cup and get myself in position for bookie paydays'.
Their team huddles are like:
'mohammed you are going to be wicketless today, Shahzir you get out in the 40th over, Naseem you are free to kick on to a century, Saqlain 2 no balls your first over'.
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:21 pm
by Googly
Ya I agree about tip of the iceberg.
I just googled Chris Cairns on a whim because he was involved in match fixing. I had the misfortune of running in with him here once where his totally unsavoury behaviour towards the wife of a friend of mine warranted a reaction.
I don't think I've ever met a more arrogant cock-sure (pardon the pun) guy in my life.
That guy has not had it easy. He ended up on life support and then in a wheel chair.
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:04 pm
by ZIMDOGGY
Googly wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:21 pm
Ya I agree about tip of the iceberg.
I just googled Chris Cairns on a whim because he was involved in match fixing. I had the misfortune of running in with him here once where his totally unsavoury behaviour towards the wife of a friend of mine warranted a reaction.
I don't think I've ever met a more arrogant cock-sure (pardon the pun) guy in my life.
That guy has not had it easy. He ended up on life support and then in a wheel chair.
I remember you told a story a few years ago of casually driving past him in a warm up game. Stuck in my brain.
Cairns actually played it well.
Lou Vincent was hell bent on rafting him out and he just played it cool and ‘died with the lie’.
I doubt Lou would have lied himself. Why would he? Ponting seems to think he did it too. But the difference between BT and him is he didn’t buckle and so got away with it, with just a slightly tarnish ? On his rep and not anything else. Been forgotten.
You can’t be half pregnant with this shit.
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:17 am
by sam_ahm
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:08 pm
Tinah09 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:47 am
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:59 pm
This is a good point and should have been the card BT played. Even if these were friends of his.
Something is still weird though.
Why aren’t these businessmen the centre of scandal in the media?
Why aren’t they arrested?
Why aren’t they named?
Why did they casually have a confidential interview with that journo who said ‘it was actually 40k’.
Seems like peopel are treating those guys with the ‘lol these Indian bookies, always up to crazy tricks’ vibe.
I reckon the matchfixing kingpins are deeply entrenched within Indian politics, powerbrokers and elite. They are probably untouchable. With the widening gulf in cricketing wealth between the haves (England, Aussie, England) and the have nots (damn near everyone else), the scourge of matchfixing is only going to get worse. I’m getting to the stage where I don’t blame poor folks for considering to throw matches
I dont think its the hardest crime to get away with and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.
Most of what we know have come from whistleblowers.
Pakistan especially i reckon fixing is everyday life. Extremely inconsistent performances for years.
I almost think its at the point where kids dream of one day playing for Pakistan 'to play tests, play a world cup and get myself in position for bookie paydays'.
Their team huddles are like:
'mohammed you are going to be wicketless today, Shahzir you get out in the 40th over, Naseem you are free to kick on to a century, Saqlain 2 no balls your first over'.
No way mate. Ya agreed some pakistani players have been stupid enough to get into fixing but this team has a great legacy, historically they've been one of the most successful cricketing nations. I don't think they are fixing everyday, and this is coming from an Indian.
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:31 am
by slcricfan1
If guys like Younis, Mohammed Yousuf etc were averaging 50+ while fixing, how ridiciously high would they be averaging if they didnt fix
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 5:27 pm
by ZIMDOGGY
slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:31 am
If guys like Younis, Mohammed Yousuf etc were averaging 50+ while fixing, how ridiciously high would they be averaging if they didnt fix
That’s what they are telling their friends at the Shisha cafe at 1am ‘you know I could have averaged 60 but I made the cheese, baby’
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 1:22 pm
by kudet
Re: Taylor Retirement Story
Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 9:08 am
by Googly
I saw him the other day from a distance, looks slim and trim.
No way mate. Ya agreed some pakistani players have been stupid enough to get into fixing but this team has a great legacy, historically they've been one of the most successful cricketing nations. I don't think they are fixing everyday, and this is coming from an Indian.