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Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:29 pm
by sam_ahm
I may be in the minority here but I would rather agree with Kriterion. I find it hard to understand T20I status given to the likes of Vietnam or Madagascar just because they can assemble a team to play cricket. There has to be some gatekeeping in terms of quality.

We can all agree to disagree but that's my viewpoint and I would say we should respect each other's view point.

Asian Games matches played in a 50m stadium and the likes of Nepal bashing around Mongolia is a mockery of international cricket. So my personal opinion is to have some gatekeeping involved.

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
by secretzimbo
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:44 pm
by sam_ahm
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
Fair enough SZ!

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:47 pm
by aydee
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
Agree.

If Madagascar were to play Vietnam in a T20, it would be a T20 between 2 nations. Surely that's the definition of a T20I!!

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:09 pm
by CalZim
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
Exactly, just look at football, there is an international side called San Marino which is basically just 11 guys they have picked from the street who can kick a ball. Every one of their games is still an International fixture even when they lose 11-0

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:14 pm
by CalZim
Just seen the Uganda squad and it’s basically a full side except Ali Shah.

Cosmas Kyewuta is back from South Africa, glad he is still playing for Uganda, he is class.

No chance we are beating that Uganda side, at least we have an easier group to try and fight for a medal in the knockouts

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:47 pm
by Kriterion_BD
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
How about creating a new status for the top 30-40 T20 nations, then? Perhaps something like ET20 for Elite T20 or perhaps T20-1.

Just throwing out an idea. That way Vietnam can still have T20I status.

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:08 pm
by Pat_Bee
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:47 pm
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
How about creating a new status for the top 30-40 T20 nations, then? Perhaps something like ET20 for Elite T20 or perhaps T20-1.

Just throwing out an idea. That way Vietnam can still have T20I status.
For what purpose? Sell it to me bro.

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:22 pm
by Crastle_cog
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:47 pm
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
How about creating a new status for the top 30-40 T20 nations, then? Perhaps something like ET20 for Elite T20 or perhaps T20-1.

Just throwing out an idea. That way Vietnam can still have T20I status.
Why though?
I don't see any other sport doing this. In football you can be a powerhouse like Spain. You still go and play the mighty San Marino if they're in your group. I don't see why cricket needs to have tiers when these are all international teams!

Re: 2023-2031 FTP news, updates, etc

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:37 pm
by secretzimbo
Crastle_cog wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:22 pm
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:47 pm
secretzimbo wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:42 pm
Ya I do, respectfully, strongly disagree Sam.

'Gatekeeping', 'Status', etc - it's all dated imperialist bollocks. No other global-level sport has such pointless concepts as 'status'.
How about creating a new status for the top 30-40 T20 nations, then? Perhaps something like ET20 for Elite T20 or perhaps T20-1.

Just throwing out an idea. That way Vietnam can still have T20I status.
Why though?
I don't see any other sport doing this. In football you can be a powerhouse like Spain. You still go and play the mighty San Marino if they're in your group. I don't see why cricket needs to have tiers when these are all international teams!
Here here!!

Scrap ‘status’. Preferably for all formats.