jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:38 am
One wicket lol hardly a match winning performance, for the rest of the match he was shithouse. This is what i'm saying about you concerning Bangladesh, you look at one little aspect and ignore the rest. You talk about the dropped catches but forget that they were going for 5 an over, even in the 2nd Test where both the openers got out early Williamson and Taylor smoked them.
Ok, I'll play since I've got little else to do on my day off
Econ rates for the Test series as a whole:
Wagner - 3.32
Boult - 4.04
Southee - 4.35
Henry - 4.45
Jayed - 4.03
Ebadat - 4.44
Khaled - 4.96
Fizz - 5.28
Jayed and Ebadat were right around where Boult and Southee were. Not surprising given how flat the wickets were in Hamilton and Wellington. Just as a reminder, Jayed and Ebadat had a total of 3 Test caps coming into the series, Boult and Southee had around 120. Not really a comparison. Context is key. Yes, Boult bowled a couple of cracking deliveries during the series but so did Jayed. Ebadat had some decent balls as well.
Remember the last BD-ZIM series. Jarvis had 12 wickets @ 15 or something crazy, but I still thought Khaled had been the most penetrative seamer from either side in that match/series. OK I'm biased, I'll admit it. But I was basing it on my perception of the percentage of times each bowler was beating the bat or troubling the batsmen. I didn't actually calculate it (I can if need be), but I felt as though Jarvis and Chatara got most of their wickets from the BD batters throwing it away. Again, don't quote me on that, because I could be wrong, although I don't think I am.
You argued also in another post that the wickets for the Kiwis were mainly off bad shots from Bangladesh batsman, so Bangladesh bwoled better with the new ball but they dropped their catches and the Kiwis bowled shit but luckily the Bangladesh batsman gave their wickets away. Take a step back and just look at that please.
Incorrect. The BD batsmen didn't throw their wickets away against the new ball, so I wouldn't have said that. We had opening stands of 57 (10.2 overs), 88 (22.3), 75 (20.4), and 4 during the series. Tamim and Shadman didn't throw their wickets away...the Kiwis just bowled in bad areas. Those 3 opening partnerships were scored at 4.11 runs per over.
In contrast, Jayed and Ebadat bowled spells of 0-29 off 10 overs and 2-60 off 17.
So combined
new ball spells across the series was 2-89 for the BD quicks at 3.30 an over.
And for NZ 2-259 at 4.08 an over.
Now please read this carefully, because I'm sure you will acknowledge that I generally choose my words very carefully...what I've been saying ad nauseum on this thread is that the
BD new ball bowlers have out-bowled the NZ new ball bowlers, and that I BELIEVE its a good sign for their future as a Test seam attack. The stats back me up:
2 for 89 at 3.30 runs per over for BD bowlers till the first change.
versus
2 for 259 at 4.08 runs per over for NZ bowlers till the first change.
What I am
NOT saying is any of the following:
- Bangladesh fast bowlers are better than Boult and Southee
- Bangladesh fast bowlers outbowled Boult and Southee throughout the Test series
- Bangladesh fast bowlers are world class
- Bangladesh fast bowlers don't have any room for improvement
- Bangladesh fast bowlers are the best in the world
I'll give you one final example. That of the Sylhet Test from a few months ago. The Zimbabwe spinners outbowled the BD spinners. That doesn't mean the ZIM spinners are better, it just means they utilized the conditions more appropriately and put their skills to better use all things considered.
I know that you may feel my English comprehension is lacking. But I just want to point out that I am American born. In fact, I was born in perhaps the most erudite place in the entire world (the city of Boston has more universities per square mile than any place I can think of, with Harvard and MIT of course leading the way). I can assure you, I'm at least competent in English, and I'm a medical doctor by education, if not by profession.