Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe | Only Test | Harare | 2021

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Donald
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Myers needs to have a spell. I don't think Taylor realises he is more than a handy bowler

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lobsang wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:56 am

For a side as good as India, they consider Pujara as one of the vital cog in the longest format of the game and his strike rate in test hitherto is 44.64. And talking of low strike rate pressure, I think in the longest format of the game it is not as concerning and alarming as it is in the shorter formats, in T20s and ODIs, low strike rate at the top will give tremendous pressure for those who come in at number 3 and 4 to up the ante. For Zimbabwe, having a batsmen who can play a long and dogged innings, leave aside strike rate issues, in test is like gold dust. For many years, they have never found a single quality batsman at the top who can bat the way Kaitano batted the other day so if Kaitano can deliver such innings once in a while then he will be a key member of that test squad for Zimbabwe in the years to come and he is only 28 years old.
A strike rate of 45 (Pujara) is still inside a decent range around the median strike rate (which is probably 55 or so). Yes he's low average, but you have to realize that a strike rate of 30 or 35 is way below even Pujara.
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Bangladesh plan is putting fielders in legside..bowl the balls on legside..putting pressure on batsman..so many dot balls bring zim batsmen struggle & out.

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It is high time ZC pull up their socks and open the door of opportunities for those young, talented and deserving players and clean out those deadwoods like Chibhabha and Maruma. Moor has gone to Ireland with the hope of representing them in the near future. And there are youngster like Ryan Murray, Brad Evans and Dane Schadendorf who may also go elsewhere for greener pasture if ZC continue snubbing them. If i were the chairman of ZC,I would ring Solomon Mire to try to lure him back since the top order in T20 is very weak and docile. He might consider to come out of retirement given there is a T20 World cup in Australia in 2023 and ODI World cup in India.

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:06 am
lobsang wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:56 am

For a side as good as India, they consider Pujara as one of the vital cog in the longest format of the game and his strike rate in test hitherto is 44.64. And talking of low strike rate pressure, I think in the longest format of the game it is not as concerning and alarming as it is in the shorter formats, in T20s and ODIs, low strike rate at the top will give tremendous pressure for those who come in at number 3 and 4 to up the ante. For Zimbabwe, having a batsmen who can play a long and dogged innings, leave aside strike rate issues, in test is like gold dust. For many years, they have never found a single quality batsman at the top who can bat the way Kaitano batted the other day so if Kaitano can deliver such innings once in a while then he will be a key member of that test squad for Zimbabwe in the years to come and he is only 28 years old.
A strike rate of 45 (Pujara) is still inside a decent range around the median strike rate (which is probably 55 or so). Yes he's low average, but you have to realize that a strike rate of 30 or 35 is way below even Pujara.
you cant get that sort of s/r without batting w 30 -35 multiple times

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:06 am
lobsang wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:56 am

For a side as good as India, they consider Pujara as one of the vital cog in the longest format of the game and his strike rate in test hitherto is 44.64. And talking of low strike rate pressure, I think in the longest format of the game it is not as concerning and alarming as it is in the shorter formats, in T20s and ODIs, low strike rate at the top will give tremendous pressure for those who come in at number 3 and 4 to up the ante. For Zimbabwe, having a batsmen who can play a long and dogged innings, leave aside strike rate issues, in test is like gold dust. For many years, they have never found a single quality batsman at the top who can bat the way Kaitano batted the other day so if Kaitano can deliver such innings once in a while then he will be a key member of that test squad for Zimbabwe in the years to come and he is only 28 years old.
A strike rate of 45 (Pujara) is still inside a decent range around the median strike rate (which is probably 55 or so). Yes he's low average, but you have to realize that a strike rate of 30 or 35 is way below even Pujara.
And here we are talking about Zimbabwe cricket and they do not have a big pool of talent like India do to choose luxuriously. For years their top order have been very fragile and like they say " they are walking wickets". If Zimbabwe can draw a match against top-tier test playing nations it is a huge achievement. And they should not think beyond that. And yes against quality sides, Kaitano's shortcomings as a batter will be exposed but he will learn definitely coz we saw his temperament, application and willingness to grind out in the middle for runs and not to throw away his wickets easily.

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Finally a wicket :W:

Very depressing day. Need the next 9 wickets for less than 50 runs to have any chance
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lobsang wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:11 am
It is high time ZC pull up their socks and open the door of opportunities for those young, talented and deserving players and clean out those deadwoods like Chibhabha and Maruma. Moor has gone to Ireland with the hope of representing them in the near future. And there are youngster like Ryan Murray, Brad Evans and Dane Schadendorf who may also go elsewhere for greener pasture if ZC continue snubbing them. If i were the chairman of ZC,I would ring Solomon Mire to try to lure him back since the top order in T20 is very weak and docile. He might consider to come out of retirement given there is a T20 World cup in Australia in 2023 and ODI World cup in India.
Moor would have been picked in the Pak and Ban series. He chose to leave. Cant blame ZC here - he hasn’t performed well for a long time especially in longer formats where his decline appears to be terminal.

ZC have been keen for Murray to come back but as usual with this kind of player he’s asked for ‘guaranteed selection’/contract rather than winning his place with domestic performances.

Evans was selected in the ‘A’ squad last month and was a reserve for the full squad Vs Pakistan too but he chose club cricket.

People being ‘snubbed’ hasn’t really happened in the last year or two. It’s a bit of a myth. Of course there are plentiful other reasons that led to these guys choosing alternatives that we can blame ZC for, but certainly not just ‘snubbing’ players

The Mire suggestion is totally ridiculous lol.

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There should be more money within ZC now we have paid off or nearly the legacy debt. Entic players with good contracts. Indeed Taylor and jarvis got good contracts at a time when our finances weren't great.

It's time for ZC to think outside the box.

Whatever happened to matigimu? Should that not be the type of bowler we should have in tandem with muzarabani. Tall gangly and very fast.

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lobsang wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:11 am
It is high time ZC pull up their socks and open the door of opportunities for those young, talented and deserving players and clean out those deadwoods like Chibhabha and Maruma. Moor has gone to Ireland with the hope of representing them in the near future. And there are youngster like Ryan Murray, Brad Evans and Dane Schadendorf who may also go elsewhere for greener pasture if ZC continue snubbing them. If i were the chairman of ZC,I would ring Solomon Mire to try to lure him back since the top order in T20 is very weak and docile. He might consider to come out of retirement given there is a T20 World cup in Australia in 2023 and ODI World cup in India.
Just because they are playing overseas doesn't mean they want to play for that national team. Afaik Moor still wants to play for Zim. I think it's good that these guys are playing more domestic and club cricket overseas which can only help to improve their skills.

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