Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:30 pm
zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm
Our national team captain is in the side.
Is he? Is Sean Williams playing? Or has the past six months passed you by?

We have, in fact, had three different national team captains since Chamu even last played for the national side. Sean Williams is officially the multi-format captain. Where have you been?

This is no third XI because it is an emerging side.
By very definition the Emerging side is the third side..... National team, 'A' team, Emerging team. In fact you could argue the new U19 boys probably wouldn't even be in the third or fourth side. This team is, pretty demonstrably and unarguably, weaker than the 'A' side we fielded against SA a couple of months ago.
This is the side who make up the national side
Erm, they very literally aren't? We have a separate 17-man squad about to fly to Ireland. Every single person in Namibia is very literally not 'making up the national side'.



It's cool having different opinions. And it's cool being unrelentingly negative about every single thing in the slightest bit related to Zim cricket if thats what you enjoy spending your time doing. But sometimes there are clear facts. Have you been smoking something? Bizarre post really.
I think Chamu is actually still officially the limited overs national captain as I haven’t seen anything since?
Although I doubt that’s continuing in reality as he didn’t make the Irish tour.

And yes, this is clearly a third string team.
You could argue that Richmond is an A player but what about 17 year old Matt Welch who hasn’t even played first class?
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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm

The beating they are getting is shambolic.
I think this is a bit harsh.

This Namibia side is called emerging but it is basically an A side mixed with first teamers. I counted 5 the other day but it’s actually 7, maybe 8.

Namibia are much stronger than people think.

Zimbabwe have fielding a young bowling attack that are facing a tough test. This experience will help them in he long run.

There was no point in Zimbabwe fielding XI young players, so players like chamu and mutumbami are there for the mental game. Supposedly supporting. The younger players. Although Chamu hasn’t from reports. Mutumbami has always been good for that even if he hasn’t been that good.

Forget the results this series, look at individual performances from the youngsters.

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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isnt namibia the best associate team now?

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William Mashinge is no longer a bowling option

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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sloandog wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:16 am
William Mashinge is no longer a bowling option
wrong thread?

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:37 am
Remind me when Sean Williams was appointed to the role permanently?
Mr Twig wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:19 am
Sean Williams is the official Test captain but in limited overs he was only filling in the captaincy role for Chamu.
ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:23 am
I think Chamu is actually still officially the limited overs national captain as I haven’t seen anything since?
Alright, well one thing we can all agree on is that ZC are awful at communication. I will do their job for them I suppose; Sean Williams is the current multi-format captain of Zimbabwe. This is the case, 1000%. He has been mentioned as such in press briefings. Chamu Chibhabha is not the captain, hasn't been for quite some months. Everyone in cricket in Zimbabwe knows this. It's shit that there is such confusion with fans; ZC really need to be better at communication.

It was mentioned around the time of the last series that the 'leadership group' is Williams, BT, Raza & Chakabva.

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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CalZim wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:36 am
zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm

The beating they are getting is shambolic.
I think this is a bit harsh.

This Namibia side is called emerging but it is basically an A side mixed with first teamers. I counted 5 the other day but it’s actually 7, maybe 8.

Namibia are much stronger than people think.

Zimbabwe have fielding a young bowling attack that are facing a tough test. This experience will help them in he long run.

There was no point in Zimbabwe fielding XI young players, so players like chamu and mutumbami are there for the mental game. Supposedly supporting. The younger players. Although Chamu hasn’t from reports. Mutumbami has always been good for that even if he hasn’t been that good.

Forget the results this series, look at individual performances from the youngsters.
Good post. This is it in a nutshell. People on here overreacting to something that really doesn't require it.

Guys, start following associate cricket. It's great, interesting and really fun. And you'll learn that Namibia are currently one of the very best. They've got Netherlands, Sri Lanka and Ireland in their group at the world cup and I'm probably about 90%+ confident that they'll qualify from that. They are a very serious team. Zimbabwe First XI Vs Namibia would be a very close series.

The third string side we have sent getting hammered by them is really not a huge deal.

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:28 am


Good post. This is it in a nutshell. People on here overreacting to something that really doesn't require it.

Guys, start following associate cricket. It's great, interesting and really fun. And you'll learn that Namibia are currently one of the very best. They've got Netherlands, Sri Lanka and Ireland in their group at the world cup and I'm probably about 90%+ confident that they'll qualify from that. They are a very serious team. Zimbabwe First XI Vs Namibia would be a very close series.

The third string side we have sent getting hammered by them is really not a huge deal.
I've got to agree with Zimbos here (a very sensible poster who I've disagreed with once or twice).

Namibia are ranked 18th in the ODI table. Behind the UAE, Nepal, and Scotland. They are ranked 19th in T20s. That is so low down the rankings that the U-19 girls team from any Test nation ought to be reasonably competitive with the Namibian first XI.

The ZIM Emerging side is much stronger than a "third side". A third side would mean there are 22 guys that are better (2 full XIs).

Taylor
Williams
Raza
Ervine
Chakabva
Myers
Madhevere
Burl
Musakanda
Blessing
Ngarava
Chatara
Tiripano
Chisoro
Wellington

Thats the only 15 guys I can think of that are clearly better than Chamu or Mutumbami or Mumba. And thats being generous to Musakanda, Tiripano, Chisoro, Wellington, and possibly Chatara too.
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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:58 am
secretzimbo wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:28 am


Good post. This is it in a nutshell. People on here overreacting to something that really doesn't require it.

Guys, start following associate cricket. It's great, interesting and really fun. And you'll learn that Namibia are currently one of the very best. They've got Netherlands, Sri Lanka and Ireland in their group at the world cup and I'm probably about 90%+ confident that they'll qualify from that. They are a very serious team. Zimbabwe First XI Vs Namibia would be a very close series.

The third string side we have sent getting hammered by them is really not a huge deal.
I've got to agree with Zimbos here (a very sensible poster who I've disagreed with once or twice).

Namibia are ranked 18th in the ODI table. Behind the UAE, Nepal, and Scotland. They are ranked 19th in T20s. That is so low down the rankings that the U-19 girls team from any Test nation ought to be reasonably competitive with the Namibian first XI.

The ZIM Emerging side is much stronger than a "third side". A third side would mean there are 22 guys that are better (2 full XIs).

Taylor
Williams
Raza
Ervine
Chakabva
Myers
Madhevere
Burl
Musakanda
Blessing
Ngarava
Chatara
Tiripano
Chisoro
Wellington

Thats the only 15 guys I can think of that are clearly better than Chamu or Mutumbami or Mumba. And thats being generous to Musakanda, Tiripano, Chisoro, Wellington, and possibly Chatara too.




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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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CalZim wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:36 am
zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm

The beating they are getting is shambolic.
I think this is a bit harsh.

This Namibia side is called emerging but it is basically an A side mixed with first teamers. I counted 5 the other day but it’s actually 7, maybe 8.

Namibia are much stronger than people think.

Zimbabwe have fielding a young bowling attack that are facing a tough test. This experience will help them in he long run.

There was no point in Zimbabwe fielding XI young players, so players like chamu and mutumbami are there for the mental game. Supposedly supporting. The younger players. Although Chamu hasn’t from reports. Mutumbami has always been good for that even if he hasn’t been that good.

Forget the results this series, look at individual performances from the youngsters.
Sugarcoat it all you want, but to lose by more than 140 runs to an associate side, whether it is our a side or not is shambolic.

The fact that we have test and odi players in the lineup too, is what makes it so.

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