Will the tour to Pakistan be in doubt now?

[sloandog]

Yes you are right, consequences should be accepted, but not through banishing the whole establishment from the international arena.....players should be banned for their poor behaviour on and off the field. Shaid Afridi shouldn't be anywhere near a Pakistan team, he's disgraced his country on more than five occasions, all on camera aswell !! Mohammed Asif is another

[bayhaus]

Pakistan PISSSSSSED me off big time! Asif especially as much as I like him look what his ex is saying here http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/ar ... d=10670154

Amir I feel very sorry for considering his background and his age, http://blogs.cricinfo.com/surfer/archiv ... _great.php

I think he deserves a warning and not a ban. It would be heartbreaking if Amir had to go. And I was sooooo looking forward to Zim being tested by these two bowlers.

I was offline for a few days and when I came back I found out Broad had scored 150+Runs! Whhaaaat!!! Against Amir and Asif? Then the match fixing allegations came into play and everything fell into place then 74 All out! This is verrrrry Sad.

[sloandog]

I hope Asif gets punished, he's a naughty boy

[maehara]

Official statement from ZC:

Zimbabwe Cricket's offer to tour Pakistan as part of that country's bid to relieve the suffering of millions of flood victims remains unchanged following recent allegations of corrupt practises against certain members of the Pakistan national team in England.

"We made the offer to help on the basis that six million people in Pakistan are homeless and that doesn't change because of allegations against a couple of players, albeit extremely serious ones," said Zimbabwe Cricket managing director Ozias Bvute. "We have received many enquiries about whether we are reconsidering our position but, unless otherwise advised by the ICC or PCB, we are still ready and willing to bring some relief to the country, however slight, by touring and playing international cricket there," Mr Bvute said.

For what it's worth, I don't see that banning Pakistan outright serves any useful purpose. They should throw the book at any players who are found to have misbehaved, but banning the whole country also catches a lot of innocent players in the net as well. Given what Zimbabwe's gone through the past few years, we should understand how damaging that can be.

[Boundary]

maehara and sloan I totally agree with both of you. What must be dealt with is the apparent atmosphere in the Pakistani dressing room whereby an 18 year old prodigy is dragged into this mess. Senior staff and players found guilty should be banned for life because they should know better. Amir is young and yes, a lifetime ban would be too harsh.

The only concern for me is setting a precedent for youngsters but that's outweighed by what Mike Atherton calls "the obvious: that Amir is a potent symbol right now, of what was, what is and what might be. He should not be punished as an example to the rest, as everyone seems to suggest, rather he should be made aware of the issues, educated, rehabilitated and held up as an example of what can be achieved. Amir’s rehabilitation should be at the heart of the cleansing of Pakistan cricket. The brilliant young bowler is not the cause of the problem but the most tragic consequence of it."

[jamthala]

Guys i think aamer is a innocent person,he do these things for his village.
He is from a poor family.
He want all those money to buy a genrator for his village.

[sloandog]

Yes amit that is exactly what we are all saying. The boy deserves a second chance, he's from a very poor background and he only wants to do the best for his village back home.

[brmtaylor.com admin]

Yes amit that is exactly what we are all saying. The boy deserves a second chance, he's from a very poor background and he only wants to do the best for his village back home.

He is an adult and at 18 he should know the difference between right and wrong. It's very cut and dry in my opinion; he's done the wrong thing, he's been caught, he will be punished.

The only question mark is over the extent of his punishment. His lack of international playing experience will work in his favour, it is highly likely that he had been coerced by senior players to take part in the fixing. That doesn't mean he should get a slap on the wrist though, he still needs to be banned for a substantial period of time.

[jamthala]

Yes amit that is exactly what we are all saying. The boy deserves a second chance, he's from a very poor background and he only wants to do the best for his village back home.

He is an adult and at 18 he should know the difference between right and wrong. It's very cut and dry in my opinion; he's done the wrong thing, he's been caught, he will be punished.

The only question mark is over the extent of his punishment. His lack of international playing experience will work in his favour, it is highly likely that he had been coerced by senior players to take part in the fixing. That doesn't mean he should get a slap on the wrist though, he still needs to be banned for a substantial period of time.

mate don't go harsh on him please.

[eugene]

I don't care if Aamer lived in a sewer tank his whole life. Match fixing is wrong and he knows it. If he isn't mature enough to deal with the issues of being an international cricketer he shouldn't be there in the first place. Everyone said Asif should be given more chances because of his age and look how he has turned out.