Post match analysis Bangla vs Zim 2nd ODI

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I rate Tatenda Taibu very highly. His experience, his wicket keeping, he's a class player.

But but but, I didn't like his batting in the 2nd ODI. Can anybody tell me what's up with Taibu ? When he can play all sorts of shots, why he was attempting the reverse sweep all the time ? You can't play the innovative shots all the time. If you can then it won't be called ''innovative'' shots, it'll be called ''text book'' shots. Taibu really needs to be responsible. We expect a lot from him.

For Dabengwa, he scored 30 runs steadily. But as far as I can understand cricket, I think he struggled all through his innings. But he bowled well. The only time Dabengwa batted well, I think against Sri Lanka in 2008 where he scored 45 runs but couldn't win the game for Zimbabwe. He is a certainty to make the XI also for the 3rd ODI. But he doesn't need to perform. He is an automatic selection, I suspect...

I'm disappointed with Meth. I don't think he'll be in the side for the next match. He looks to be a strong lad. So why don't he bowl 80+mph :?: It looks to be awkward seeing him bowling only 66-70 mph.

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The thing that'd restricting Meth is his action.
He's got a really nice run up, it's quick and it's fluent, very much like Dale Steyn's from South Africa. But what he's failing to do is drive that right shoulder through the crease, thus he's losing out on a lot of pace.
I reckon if his action was better, he'd had the ability to bowl 80+ Mph, for sure.
I suppose this is where Heath Streaks experience comes into the picture.
He won't be able to change him into a Peter Siddle, but he could help him gain more out of his action.

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Detective RDS wrote:I rate Tatenda Taibu very highly. His experience, his wicket keeping, he's a class player.

But but but, I didn't like his batting in the 2nd ODI. Can anybody tell me what's up with Taibu ? When he can play all sorts of shots, why he was attempting the reverse sweep all the time ? You can't play the innovative shots all the time. If you can then it won't be called ''innovative'' shots, it'll be called ''text book'' shots. Taibu really needs to be responsible. We expect a lot from him.

For Dabengwa, he scored 30 runs steadily. But as far as I can understand cricket, I think he struggled all through his innings. But he bowled well. The only time Dabengwa batted well, I think against Sri Lanka in 2008 where he scored 45 runs but couldn't win the game for Zimbabwe. He is a certainty to make the XI also for the 3rd ODI. But he doesn't need to perform. He is an automatic selection, I suspect...

I'm disappointed with Meth. I don't think he'll be in the side for the next match. He looks to be a strong lad. So why don't he bowl 80+mph :?: It looks to be awkward seeing him bowling only 66-70 mph.

Dabengwa is indeed an automatic selection. Zimbabwe should be known as 'Keith Dabengwa and the Z-Street Band'.
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I've lost interest in the series already :roll:
The fact that the same crap player is guaranteed a place in the team, regardless of how well he does, is just a joke and it's not fair on the players who have worked hard to get to the position they're in, i.e Ryan Butterworth.
The next match better have some added spice to it, or I'm not even going to bother watching or visit the threads..

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it seems zimbabwe are having some of the same problems we are/were having vis a vis Ashraful and his continued BS batting. granted i'd still give him the lower order sloggers role since we lack firepower down the order.

but here's my (BD viewpoint) take on the first 2 games of the series:

Bangladesh

Tamim - atrocious call in the first game, was batting fluently in the next till he let his youth get the better of him. Price is a good enough bowler to need to play him with respect. Good news is he's seemed to shake of his injury rust. I want to see a minimum of 150 runs the rest of the series.

Imrul - doing what he does best, scoring runs ever other innings. can't ask for more, don't want any less.

Junaid - i'm not sold on this guy, batted too slowly for my taste. I'd rather have Shahriar Nafees or the rookie Jahirul Islam bat here instead

Raqibul - solid innings but he needs to do that against the top sides in order to gain my confidence.

Shakib - the only thing standing between him and a 2nd consecutive Man of the Series award is Razzak's left arm spin.

Mushfiq - i'd rather see him bat up the order, but that would require either Junaid or Raqibul getting the chop.

Naeem - yet to bat, but his bowling has gotten better than what it was when he debuted a few years ago.

Mahmudullah - good bowling, terrible batting. He's our Dabengwa right now.

Ashraful - the less said about him the better it is. really.

Mortaza - he is clearly not fit to play given his sissy bowling action, and gradually increasing pace of 77 mph. Needs to get benched for the rest of the series.

Shafiul - needs to work on his control, and i expect him to get some more wickets than he has been.

Razzak - its premature, but i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up setting the record for most wickets in a 5 game series (he already holds the BD record, with 15 IIRC).
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What is difficult to digest is the inaction (or may be the helplessness) of the coaching staff in bringing Taibu back on track. At least I have grown beyond the stage of tearing my hair out while watching him bat.

Chiggs has to take the tough decision on his own, no one would be able to help him. He has to give up captaincy if he genuinely believes it is affecting his game.

We have already suffered a huge setback to the World Cup preparations by letting Hamilton and Cremer warm the benches.

The above 3 damages might be irreparable, at least before the world cup.

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I just hope and pray that Regis Chakabva stays in form and sends a clear message to Taibu that his place is not guaranteed and he is no specia person who needs to be treated with kids gloves . With the amount of experience he has it is indeed a cause for concern .
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Taibu gets a raw deal on this forum. I understand the frustration with his perchant for cross batted strokes and silly immature dismissals when set but are people seriously suggesting that his place in the team is under threat? By who? Chakabva? Give me a break. A guy who's made 2 20's against Bangladesh. Did he not just score 78 against S.Africa? Taibu won't go the Matsi road because matsi was never up to it.

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I think, the sum and substance of here is that Taibu can't remain under perform. Chakabva should create pressure on him and compel him to perform. But it's true that Taibu isn't a Matsikenyeri type of player whom Zimbabwe can drop. Taibu is a class player. His experience, wicket keeping and batting is needed by Zimbabwe. I don't think his place his under threat currently. But but but he has to deliver and deliver for Zimbabwe.

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:What is difficult to digest is the inaction (or may be the helplessness) of the coaching staff in bringing Taibu back on track. At least I have grown beyond the stage of tearing my hair out while watching him bat.

Chiggs has to take the tough decision on his own, no one would be able to help him. He has to give up captaincy if he genuinely believes it is affecting his game.

We have already suffered a huge setback to the World Cup preparations by letting Hamilton and Cremer warm the benches.

The above 3 damages might be irreparable, at least before the world cup.
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