CrimsonAvenger wrote:Drop Chakabva, play Mupariwa.
What's wrong with you, drop Chakabva, ludicrous idea! Mupariwa's promising but not good enough to come in for the crunch game.
LOL I fell off my chair almost, looking at the username! Welcome to the forums, second Crimson...
If you spend enough time in the forums you'll realize that I'm one of the biggest Chakabva fans, but his game isn't suited for ODIs as of now. He needs to develop that still. And Mupariwa in because we are already short on bowling with Chigs not bowling much or having no control whenever he bowls.
Chibhabha (if fit, if not, then Regis)
Raza
Hammy
Taylor
Chigumbura
Williams
Ervine
Mire
Chatara
Mupariwa
Panyangara
We are clearly happy to use Williams and Raza for spin, so i dont see the point in having a third spinner. I know Kamungozi is the specialist, but he isnt getting much turn or doing much and i dont think Manuka Oval would do a lot. I can see us getting 10 overs from Williams or even 8 with 2 from Raza. Having Mupariwa gives us that extra death bowling and we an mix it up. I would expect Elton or Hammy to chip in with a few overs.
Even if Elton is too afraid to bowl, he doesn't have to. We have Mire who we would probably get ten or close to ten out of.
zimbos_05 wrote:We are clearly happy to use Williams and Raza for spin, so i dont see the point in having a third spinner. I know Kamungozi is the specialist, but he isnt getting much turn or doing much and i dont think Manuka Oval would do a lot. I can see us getting 10 overs from Williams or even 8 with 2 from Raza. Having Mupariwa gives us that extra death bowling and we an mix it up. I would expect Elton or Hammy to chip in with a few overs.
Even if Elton is too afraid to bowl, he doesn't have to. We have Mire who we would probably get ten or close to ten out of.
To be honest, I wouldn't drop Kamungozi. He's doing a fine job.
Dockrell (10-0-50-3), McBrine (10-1-26-0) and Stirling's(6-0-33-0) bowling was crucial in Ireland's victory over WI.
Their seamers, like ours, bowled crap at the death....
zimbos_05 wrote:We are clearly happy to use Williams and Raza for spin, so i dont see the point in having a third spinner. I know Kamungozi is the specialist, but he isnt getting much turn or doing much and i dont think Manuka Oval would do a lot. I can see us getting 10 overs from Williams or even 8 with 2 from Raza. Having Mupariwa gives us that extra death bowling and we an mix it up. I would expect Elton or Hammy to chip in with a few overs.
Even if Elton is too afraid to bowl, he doesn't have to. We have Mire who we would probably get ten or close to ten out of.
To be honest, I wouldn't drop Kamungozi. He's doing a fine job.
Dockrell (10-0-50-3), McBrine (10-1-26-0) and Stirling's(6-0-33-0) bowling was crucial in Ireland's victory over WI.
Their seamers, like ours, bowled crap at the death....
Other than his AB wicket, I fail to see what he has contributed massively to the team. We clearly have trouble with our seam variation and the one way to fix that is to bring in Mupariwa. Dropping Panyangara wont solve the lack of variation and seam options, but just leave us right back at the beginning.
Clearly the Irish spinners did well because the WIs couldn't face them then. It does not mean they will always struggle against spin. Williams and Raza have given us spin options are doing just as good a job as Kamungozi.
grant wrote:Atleast Kamungozi has not been as expensive as the seamers....
Yeah he is doing his job, he would probably complement a good seam attack very well keeping it tight and letting the seamers strike from the other end .....
Zim seriously need to do something about those depth overs. At list Mupariwa has a measure of control. He should be in the team.
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I'd like to see Mupariwa given a go for maybe Kamungozi. Williams can bowl 10 overs and keep it relatively tight. Not sure about Chigs/Mire. There's really only enough room for one of them in the side and the captain is not going to get dropped so maybe drop Mire and push Regis down the order if Chamu is fit.
grant wrote:Atleast Kamungozi has not been as expensive as the seamers....
Yeah he is doing his job, he would probably complement a good seam attack very well keeping it tight and letting the seamers strike from the other end .....
The thing is, if he isn't going to threaten, then he shouldn't just be picked for economy, particularly not if he is meant to be the frontline spinner. Williams is doing a decent enough job of the economy, and he he took two wickets against UAE. A side you would expect your specialist front line spinner to threaten and maybe take the wickets. Against SA Kamungozi was not threatening either. He got the wicket, but i think more of that is owed to Ervine rather than the bowler. Not his fault in the SA game fully considering we went ultra defensive and opened up the field, but it was not as if Williams got punished too bad too.
Thing is you cant drop a batsman for a front line bowler when your batting is not as strong as the other sides. You also cant drop a front line seamer when your number 3 and 4 seamer/all rounder are not performing and doing a job. In both games we had the opportunity to kill off the game but didn't because we didn't have that extra punch. We defended in the field and we bowled erratically. The 3rd and 4th seamer take up 20 overs. You cant afford those 20 overs to be an easy 6 runs an over. Your spinners need to keep the pressure on too in the middle overs. Miller and Duminy just nudged them around and picked up easy ones and twos. It set them up for the big push at the end. The other bowlers need to help out the seamers. If teams have wickets towards the end or are scoring flowingly at 6 an over coming in to the last ten, then the fast bowlers are rife for the picking.
