Taylor Retirement Story

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Tinah09
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secretzimbo wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:10 am
Has anyone seen Mr Hamilton Masakadza in the past three months? Curiously silent for a previously media loving Director of Cricket.

That will all come out one day….
The Zimbabwean cricket community is too small hence its highly unlikely that Brendan’s shenanigans don’t extend beyond him. Me thinks Brendan is just a tip of the iceberg or should I say, dungheap

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That Frank Mawoza 🤡 is doing a victory lap on twitter, enjoying the fact that the high profile cases so far are white. I would keep the Champagne on ice if I were him because there is far more to this story than meets the eye

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:20 am
Disappointing news. I hope the ICC has a real plan to root out fixing.

It's apparent why BT seemed so off.focus the last year of his career.
Yeah it all makes sense now. Despite this, he was still near the top of the batting averages during this period.

Surely there has to be some leniency given the circumstances? Certainly not the same level ban Heath Streak received.

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This gets more horrible the more I think about it. How many others in this team have been exposed to corruption and played a part?

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Story of the seniors of the current generation:
  • One guy retires only to joins hands with the admin who have a questionable track record.
  • One more is found out to be having a history of drug abuse, alcoholism and then gets in touch with bookies too.
  • Another produces a fake coaching certificate to land a coaching job and flashes the race victim card at will.
  • One guy retires and unretires at whim.
  • Another takes up a youngster's place and doesn't retire at all despite being nowhere near his best until he is found a cushy job in the hierarchy.
Young kids in Zim badly need at least one good cricketing role model for the game to survive and prosper :(

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What communications took place between ICC and ZC throughout this period?
This incident took place in 2019 yet BT continued playing, even as captain.
He came forward late about what he says transpired, so already he has not not adhered to the code of conduct, so surely you suspend the player pending investigation?
ZC must have not only been notified, but surely ICC would now be thinking- we've notified ZC and preliminary investigations don't look too peachy and yet he continues to play and as captain, what the hell is going in down there?
I accept the innocent until proven guilty thing, but he's already guilty by waiting 4 months.

In fact surely BT notified ZC before he went to ICC? You surely don't quietly go to ICC and say- listen something really bad happened! Logically you go to your board first and they say- this is not looking good, you (or we?) had better notify ICC. (Actually you'd go to a clever lawyer first if you had any sense)
If he approached ZC first would they say- not another thieving white, c'mon up your games :lol:, can we afford another scandal, should we think about keeping this hush hush or should we take it immediately to ICC so we are seen to be doing the right thing?
If they hate Taylor so much why didn't they skewer him back then?

Then after he retires and ICC give him a send-off they decide to ban him? Publicly banning a guy who has already taken himself out of the game is odd. Has this been done before? You're not actually banning the guy, that's a bullshit joke if he's not even playing, you're just shaming him. Call it what it is.
One would now assume he was retiring because he knew what was coming, or that was the main reason and pay dispute was secondary.

ZC have been sitting on this information for a while, clearly eager to burn him at the stake, yet they wait for him to make a statement before they get cracking on him? Why not pull the trigger on him earlier? Then surely you're seen to being proactive and not reactive? . This is all through their "unofficial" channels which everyone knows is actually their official channel, I mean that is a really poor shameful shit show right there. They've probably missed the only chance they've ever had to look like the good guys and rise above that crap, and they've missed the opportunity twice in a row.
It's a perpetual attempt to vilify whites, solidify position and justify poor past, present and potentially future actions.
It's barely concealed glee that a white has been caught with his pants down. I was going to say also, but that hasn't happened. We're all grown ups here, it's only because no one else has been caught. Jeering from the sidelines that they were caught but you weren't is risky business :lol:
At no point does it occur to them that this is a poor reflection on them as well. You run a tight ship this is unlikely to happen. Maybe Taylor and Streak were thinking- if you can't beat 'em then join 'em :lol:
Their whole thing is- we're where we are because these white guys fucked us. As usual about 20 people countrywide buy that story. Taylor and Streak helped dig the 10 meter hole half a meter deeper is all.

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Has the ICC released any official statement yet? If not, it was BT's way of preempting the announcement and by saying that he is checking into rehabilitation on 25th, avoiding any further discussion on that topic for a while from his end. Basically, he has said all that he has to and anything that does not fit into that storyline when ICC releases their statement, there won't be any answer from BT's side. May be this preemption made the ICC go back and check how to make their release public as well :lol:

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Tinah09 wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:28 am
That Frank Mawoza 🤡 is doing a victory lap on twitter, enjoying the fact that the high profile cases so far are white. I would keep the Champagne on ice if I were him because there is far more to this story than meets the eye
Oh yeah straight up.
If these bookies could figure out that two well off white stars are prone to this then you can bet they would have also figured out that some black players with poor backgrounds are prone to the same. That is just common sense.
I’d say it’s happened and the only reason we don’t know about it is it was pulled off.
In the BT and Streak cases there was an element of both naivety and being in two minds/unsure. They aren’t from the street. Ones a farmer and the other has three first names.
A brother who knows the hustle growing up would also know to go all in on the game, cover all tracks. And if it got out, die with the lie.
Chris Cairns got off this charge when he was obviously involved and outed by following that tactic.
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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:18 am
Story of the seniors of the current generation:
  • One guy retires only to joins hands with the admin who have a questionable track record.
  • One more is found out to be having a history of drug abuse, alcoholism and then gets in touch with bookies too.
  • Another produces a fake coaching certificate to land a coaching job and flashes the race victim card at will.
  • One guy retires and unretires at whim.
  • Another takes up a youngster's place and doesn't retire at all despite being nowhere near his best until he is found a cushy job in the hierarchy.
Young kids in Zim badly need at least one good cricketing role model for the game to survive and prosper :(
Jarvis, ervine, raza, blessing and regis haven't had anything major that we know off. Plus people make mistakes. It's an issue or unrealistic that cricketers are expected to be better than the average human or role models. Although I admit it's been a bit much of late.

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Money will make people do crazy things. If I remember correctly a bomb went off at 1 of these T20 tournaments a few years back and a lot of our guys were paid to stay.

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