South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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Andy31
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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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secretzimbo wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:31 pm
They will pick Makoni. Because.
I get because but gee why set him up to fail lol

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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Its been many years since we've had so many batters waiting in the wings-
Myers, Marumani, Bawa, Campbellx2, Matt W, Frost, Kaitano, and a few others
Theres extra seamers as well, not as many.

It is surely imperative that they line up as many A games as possible. We get a bunch of 40 year olds locking up places for the next 3 years the players in waiting will be nowhere by the time these guys retire.
Time to professionalize the franchise system. We cannot waste these guys. Time to pay them a living wage. Most of these guys wont waste another 3 years on 100 bucks a month.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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By the time there's 4 spots available most of these good guys will be long gone.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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I just think Curran struggles with the new ball against quality attacks. It's been a real baptism of fire lately. the Afghan bowlers are very good. Bangladesh in Bangladesh for the second test was not a joke either. Then you have England, SA and NZ back to back. Quality. Ireland was the only relatively easier series and he scored a century. We were so used to having filler games against the Dutch, Ireland and Nepal etc back to back. This has been straight into the fire. I would rather he plays the anchor role Craig currently has because he is a grafter. Missing the SA tests is unfortunate. KG is a serious bowler.

Perfect opportunity for Nick to open. As I have been saying. The chances will come. No issues with Raza now. Tanu is better off going on the A tour but if they don't draft Kaitano in he will be carrying the drinks.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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I dont think he's alone. Its a massive step up for anyone. This is the deep end like no other.
What they have to decide is who is worth giving some opportunity to in that role. Curran definitely hasn't done badly in my opinion. He's absolutely had his good moments and the big question is is he learning and improving? Finding a quality international opener is beyond difficult, its the toughest gig in world sport in my opinion. To break your hand and then bat for a couple more overs is bloody impressive.

Bennett has done really well so far, but its cricket and he will hit a poor patch at some point. He's had more than his fair share of good fortune as well. That doesnt last forever. He looks the part though- composed and looking to score, good thru off- ticks most of the boxes. I saw some footage of him yesterday and he looked like he was coping for sure. At this level finding guys willing to put their hands up when they're coming at 145 plus is not easy either :lol: 145 is the upper limit of human reaction time of the best batters. You're talking a small handful of people that can cope. You're genuinely at risk as well. Thats the issue with not having quick guys in our franchise system. Anyone with ability can cope up to about 135 but after that you're getting into the rarified air of a small handful of tough talented fellas.
You have to wait until you play some quick guys and give the batter a fair chance at it. Call it 6 games, which is 12 innings. Thats usually two years for us, but its different this time, its 6 months or so. Its a moot point, because he's probably out for 4-6 weeks. I dunno if that includes him getting back into it, or its 6 weeks plus getting back into it?
That ball that bust his hand was an absolute snorter. Terrible delivery to get. Williams got one as well that he only just managed to avoid.

They've made the move to go with Makoni, but maybe the reality of 145/150 will dawn on them. Hard to walk it back now though. They've shown he's next in line by sending him there and Curran is out so theyve picked the absolute toughest time humanly possible for him to succeed. I'm not suggesting he won't cope, maybe he has the reactions of a jungle cat and the technique and intestinal fortitude to deal with two of the best bowlers in the world trying to kill him.
They have to send him in first drop tomorrow to see how he does. A baptism of fire!! If he lasts long enuf to give us an indication of his ability either way we need to see it ASAP, no better opportunity to change the plan if he's out of his depth.

What I'd be doing is getting our wannabe openers down to Byo and have a large number of centre wickets and sidearming 145 plus and see who can cope. I'm just telling you there's only 3 guys if we're lucky. I know Williams, Ervine and Raza really dont like pace. Nobody does. Its ugly and scary.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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I remember when they were looking for quick bowlers some years ago. They should advertise for openers in a similar fashion-

Do you think you can open for Zimbabwe?
A trial is being held in Bulawayo from the 15th to 23rd May.
You will be required to face 150 kph at varying lines and lengths for an hour in the mornings and half an hour in the afternoons.
To be eligible candidates require a FC average of 25 plus if you bat 1-3 or or 35 plus if you bat from 4-7.
The last two surviving players get the opportunity to open against SA in the upcoming test.
You will be required to sign a personal indemnity.
You will be required to be on a reputable medical aid.
You will be required to provide your own helmets and bats and there is no compensation for broken equipment.
Should you fulfill the above requirements please present yourself at Queens on the morning of the 15th at 9am sharp.
Accommodation and travel is for your own expense.
ZC is offering a Central Contract of $1500pm before tax to those successful applicants, commencing April 2027.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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I read Firdose's article where she also mentioned Ngidi broke Welch's bat :lol: why did nobody mention that ? These guys might be the pinnacle of test cricket at the moment. Can't get harder than that

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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Googly wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 6:01 pm
I remember when they were looking for quick bowlers some years ago. They should advertise for openers in a similar fashion-

Do you think you can open for Zimbabwe?
A trial is being held in Bulawayo from the 15th to 23rd May.
You will be required to face 150 kph at varying lines and lengths for an hour in the mornings and half an hour in the afternoons.
To be eligible candidates require a FC average of 25 plus if you bat 1-3 or or 35 plus if you bat from 4-7.
The last two surviving players get the opportunity to open against SA in the upcoming test.
You will be required to sign a personal indemnity.
You will be required to be on a reputable medical aid.
You will be required to provide your own helmets and bats and there is no compensation for broken equipment.
Should you fulfill the above requirements please present yourself at Queens on the morning of the 15th at 9am sharp.
Accommodation and travel is for your own expense.
ZC is offering a Central Contract of $1500pm before tax to those successful applicants, commencing April 2027.
Might need Jayden Goodwin to go on another discovery of God.

I am unsure if Bryoom is injured but i feel he might start to be on the outer.

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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Andy31 wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:25 pm
zimfan1 wrote:
Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:20 pm
Curran has broken his hand. Will miss the South Africa tests.

Raining today, no play so far.
Surely Kaitano is the oblivious replacement but let’s see.
N.Welch didn't play last test so he is the obvious replacement

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Re: South Africa vs Zimbabwe | Minor Multi-Day Match | 03 June 2025

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I think Ed Byrom is out of favor at Glamorgan atm. He's a good example of my continuous argument.
He's played here many times and done ok but not stood out, but he 100% can cope with pace. He's got as much time on the ball as anyone I've ever seen. I've never ever seen him rushed for pace.

Muyeye is another. I watched him as as a schoolboy netting against Morne Morkel and he was bowling quick and ugly and he had never experienced anything like that and he coped just fine, was gobsmackingly impressive.

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