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Chawaguta interview post U19 series debacle

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Zimbabwe Under-19 cricket team's woeful performance at the recently-ended quadrangular series in India has raised concern over the future of the game in the country.

Zimbabwe lost all their matches against the hosts, Australia and South Africa.

Having also put up a pathetic display at last year's World Cup in Australia, Zimbabwe continued with their struggle at youth level.

Facing a South African side with a fast bowling attack and hosts India who were comfortable with spin-friendly conditions, Zimbabwe were always going to find it difficult to win against the much superior opponents.

Coach Walter Chawaguta however feels they gained immense experience, vital for next February's World Cup.

"Obviously as a coach you are disappointed after losing because you expect better performances," said Chawaguta.

"But I am not too disappointed because we were playing against the three best playing teams in the world. There was tough competition, and you could not ask for more. It was a learning curve."

Subcontinent conditions in India also contributed to Zimbabwe's demise.

"Conditions were very harsh and some of the players were not mentally mature to make adjustments. Lack of fitness let us down. Momentum-wise, we struggled and we failed to play for longer," said Chawaguta.

"You bowl five overs but it would feel like you have bowled 25 overs because of the humidity. In 50 overs we would only look good in the first 20 overs. In terms of skills, we matched other teams man-for-man and never felt out of place in that regard. But the inability to absorb pressure and deal with small setbacks affected us."

Despite the defeats, Chawaguta said he drew positives from the series and feels the India experience will come in handy at the World Cup.

"I saw some improvements. Lack of exposure at international level was our major drawback. We only get exposure at crucial stages and when you go to big tournaments, it would be too late and that becomes a letdown," he said.

"Of the 15 players that we had, only five had international experience, and obviously as a coach you bank on experience. The squad we went with to India is going to be the core of the team we will take to the World Cup next year. Some boys could take advantage of that but we still have trials.

Next year's World Cup would be staged in the United Arab Emirates where conditions are almost similar to those they were subjected to in India.

"We should have used specialist spinners in India. Instead, we employed all-rounder spinners which is a problem because there would be no commitment on a certain department," said Chawaguta.

"We need more spinners at the World Cup. Spin is going to be a big trump card. Some of our batsmen surpassed the 50-run mark. Even other teams had their batsmen struggling to reach centuries."

Against India, Zimbabwe managed 245 runs with Joylord Gumbie scoring 60 while Clive Chitumba came just 17 runs short of reaching a century.

Ryan Burl scored an unbeaten 79 against Australia before hitting 74 against the same side in Zimbabwe's last match.

Senior team coach Andy Waller said he will have to study the results before judging their capabilities.
He definitely has brought out some basic shortcomings we have in U19 level. But the first highlighted statement is unacceptable. We really did not match the other teams by any stretch of imagination.

As for the second highlighted part, whose decision was it to not send / play specialist spinners if Walter has those views?

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We don't have any u19 specialist spinners. All of them are all rounders. All of our decent spinners are pretty conventional and herein lies the problem. They are either at school or just out of it and most of them bowl too slowly, in the low to mid 70's instead of the low 80's. Not enough loop (created from a bit/lot of overspin). It's a step up to bowl low 80's with loop and a bit of drift. They rely on bowling consistent line and length and that's just not going to cut it at that level. I'm yet to see a really well disguised wrong 'un as well. As a leggie that would require a really fast hand at the top to disguise it, and it will land with a lot of top spin, giving bounce and may go straight on as well. I'm not sure anyone has a decent slider either.

As far as offies go, again I'm yet to see a doosra or any variation really. The really good modern offies all seem to have a bit of a suspect flick, this disguises the hand and enables the other one, especially the one coming out the front. Most of our off spinners look really conventional. I really like Ives' left arm orthodox, he's not up to speed but there's a lot to work with there. I'm not sure what other deliveries he can bowl but he gets a good loop and turns it.

If they picked 3 offies and 3 leggies and found two decent spinning coaches, took video footage, set up a pitchvision (there's actually one here, won't tell u where!), daily target bowling, plus nets, plus game time, we would improve immensely by February. The big trick with spinning is some consistency and a mystery ball that is hard to read that creates doubt. Narine has proved that big turn and bounce is not essential (of course if u have it then great), what is really taking wickets is wondering which way the ball is going to turn, even if it's just a bit. A spinner that can adjust line and length well in his delivery stride (if the batter moves) is a big bonus as well. This is a very underrated talent that is often taken for granted, few spinners do it well.

We need the same thing for the quicks as well. They need to be fitter and stronger and they also need video footage taken, a few technical adjustments and then to learn to bowl consistent line and length primarily, and then slower balls and Yorker length.

All these top sides have real tricksters in their sides, conventional spin is largely a thing of the past, the game has moved on. Batters (and equipment) are much better and more attacking, fielding is waay better, spinners have changed a lot. Quicks are more consistent, bigger, faster, fitter, and the good ones have consistent yorkers are good slower balls (even slow ball bouncers).

Are we that far behind? It would seem so on paper but I have my doubts about this. There's talent here, we just have to bridge a gap, and in 4 months. This is a big ask. First problem is motivating the current squad, they've just come off 2 months of more cricket than they have ever played, taken a proper hiding, are really despondent and now have another 4 months ahead of them. I'm sure a few guys will show some battle fatigue. Bear in mind that other top teams have been together for well over a year.

Ideally the whole squad needs to be absorbed into the franchise system, I'm not seeing this. Maybe they could become an extra team in the franchise?? This perhaps would be do-able, even two teams?? I don't think First League (club) is strong enough to get these guys up to speed. I follow this league and will be able to tell you which u19's avail themselves, I'm doubting very many.

Post mortems are easy. We lack the cricket to really help these guys and we need to do something a bit unconventional for the next 4 months or it's going to be more of the same. I am having some doubts about the coaching and management as well. Predictions prior to tour were way off the mark, indicating a lack of experience.
Enthusiasm only takes you so far, then you need a real plan. Maybe if ZC offers them more support they will take what they learnt from India and they will come up with a plan? We'll soon see. Chawaguta is taking the batting, bowling, fielding etc. I have no issue with him as an overall coach but we probably need some specialist coaches in the different disciplines in the meantime. Practice for the sake of it is not going to work.

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The fact is that there are quite a few guys in franchise that are journeymen cricketers who ply their trade but are not good enough to make the step up to national. If ZC can't make room for an u19 set up to play in the franchise then these guys could take a rest and some of the u19's could replace them. I'm not suggesting that these u19's are better, probably not as good in fact, but they need quality game time, and urgently!! Just thinking out the box.

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All these top sides have real tricksters in their sides, conventional spin is largely a thing of the past, the game has moved on. Batters (and equipment) are much better and more attacking, fielding is waay better, spinners have changed a lot.
Great point.

This is why I'll never stop calling for Cremer's selection. Utseya is as conventional as off spinners come and that's why he's not too threatening. From what I've seen of Mushangwe and Mutumbodzi, they don't have a wrong-un and their legbreaks don't rip as much as Cremer's do.

Cremer has a very good wrong-un; my only criticism is that he doesn't employ it enough.

Cremer has all the tools to be the complete package as far as legspinners go; he just needs to play consistent Test cricket. Unfortunately between player strikes and poor scheduling, it's hard to get that consistency.

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Couldn't agree more, if u persevere with Cremer u will end up with a top leggie. His googly and top spinner are very very difficult to read. Very fast hand at the top. I feel for this guy, has not been given the chance he deserves.

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Googly wrote:The fact is that there are quite a few guys in franchise that are journeymen cricketers who ply their trade but are not good enough to make the step up to national. If ZC can't make room for an u19 set up to play in the franchise then these guys could take a rest and some of the u19's could replace them. I'm not suggesting that these u19's are better, probably not as good in fact, but they need quality game time, and urgently!! Just thinking out the box.
Even though our first class cricket is not that strong, the current under 19 side would not push one of these sides past 1 & 1/2 days in a four day match. One or two of them might make a franchise squad but the rest haven't got a chance. There is a big difference between under 19's and franchise cricket

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Agree, but was thinking more for the 50 over format. How would u set about improving them between now and then?
Would u make player changes? What of this over age thing?

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