[Match Thread] Zimbabwe vs South Africa, 1st ODI

[Googly]

It doesn’t matter how experienced you are, if you haven’t played top flight cricket for a few months you’re going to struggle. Also if you go out early you probably haven’t taken too much from that game. We should improve going forward though. Taylor has always batted with a low stance and low hands, it does work for him, he’s a very accomplished batsman, but the trend is almost an upright stance, with a high back lift and high hands, then a bit of a trigger into a lower crouch, but maintaining the high hands. You see very few batters (esp in England) who have a low back lift and tap tap for rhythm. Trends come and go though. The low hands tend to make you push your bottom hand through and square you up a bit e you’re not careful. That’s a serious bowling attack we’re up against.

[Googly]

If you don’t have 140+ bowlers for preparation then you need a couple of sharp guys with the sidearm. That would be Brent and Flower.... oh I forgot, we sacked them for being shit! I’m willing to bet that BT would be the only guy that would survive a 20 minute session against Brent without nicking off or getting pinned, he is the acid test for any opening batsmen wannabees

[ZIMDOGGY]

Definitely need more game time and tours. Keep everyone busy

[ZIMDOGGY]

The future stragtwgy I think is to identify and hand pick all youths that are zim eligible that are excelling around the globe and Work our an arrangement with them. The older second tier guys like Elton are tainted with failure mentality. Damaged baggage from not only losing, but crazy politics.

We need a mindset and culture change. Like everyone pints out we need to cut the head of the snake to make it happen.

We only need to unearth one Test quality batsman and bowler every year to make a profound change by the next World Cup.

[jaybro]

General consensus is right we need more game time, that’s the only thing that can help improve our senior players. They need as much competitive cricket as possible.

No warm up matches against South Africa in their own back yard on a dodgy pitch, 117 wasn’t as bad as 117 usually is. 180-200 would have won that game.

Jarvis was very frustrating yesterday, bowled some gems but he bowls one boundary ball an over. If he was on song yesterday who knows what might have happened. Unlucky to have Jonkers dropped & not to get Duminy out, had him all at see.

Chatara brilliant as always on a helpful deck he finds the right line and length, but seriously wtf was Hami doing? You’re defending 117 bowl him out ffs 🤯🤯🤯🤯

Wellington bowled a Jaffa to get Hendricks but still for me I’m not fussed on him, bowled some tripe to Klaasen.

Mavuta looks ok and the commentators were saying they can’t pick his ‘wrong’un’ which could make him very dangerous, but his action will cause him to pull too many deliveries down IMO, needs a lot of work.

Not much to say about the batting but in highs sight we just needed 1 or 2 guys to dig in and make 30 or 40 and we might have won, time in the middle again the main factor.

[Black Mamba]

Any team wants a player with some form in his Playing XI. Zimbabwe Selectors are terrible, Musakanda & Murray emerged as the best player in recently held Africa T20, and has been left out of the squad, they could have easily included him in the odi side.
Team Management hurt the young players confidence by making them warm in bench and droping them inspite of scoring

Once in a blue moon scorer has been picked as captain. Picking Chigumbura & Chibhabha is nothing but celebration of friendship by the selectors. More then 200 & 100 odi experience players still can't drive their team and are still the seasonal failure. Chigumbura's highest score of 27 nothing looks great whereas his catch drop cost the team and after the series there will be no difference in performances with this so called experienced team and that with inexperienced side featured against Pakistan.

South Africa will be now a differant side after this tensed win

[TapsC]

Did they play some sort of warm up? The commentator who was hyping Mavuta up said he had seen in a warmup that batsmen couldnt pick his googly. How would he have known that?

[Black Mamba]

There is a lack of good batsman for South Africa in facing spin, that costed them odi series loss in home against India and also test series in Sri Lanka. Leg Spinners are wrist spinners and is hard to pick for any batsman if the bowler maintains accuracy.

[zimbos_05]

It doesn’t matter how experienced you are, if you haven’t played top flight cricket for a few months you’re going to struggle. Also if you go out early you probably haven’t taken too much from that game.

I tend to disagree. I have seen both spectrums. Players coming in with not much experience excelling, and players with heaps of experience continually players, but diminishing. I have also seen players who have been away from the game for a long time either through injury or lack of playing time, coming back and performing well. The reason for this is because of the work behind the scenes. They are not just waiting for games to perfect their skill, they are taking time in the nets, outside of match times and game times, and are spending any opportunity to practice and improve. Learn the skills they have been taught. Getting someone to do throw downs for an hour or so on a Saturday afternoon so they can work on what the coach has told them. They are also working on other aspects they have been taught like their physical fitness and mental skills, as well as technical attributes like their stance and how they hold the bat etc etc.. Failure to prepare is preparing to fail.

We can't keep blaming everything on lack of game time. If that is the excuse all the time, then playing 200 ODIs means you have just spent all that time not bothering to try, make an effort, or even caring.

If you're going out early, there still is a lot to take from that game. There is a lot to take from every game. If batsman 3 went out early, you can still learn from how you went out. What did the ball do and what did you do wrong. If for example the ball moved a certain way, then that shows the pitch was probably swinging a bit. Take some time to look at the wicket so next time you see that kind of a wicket, you know it might do that again, hence, don't play the same shot that got you out, or that it is a shot you need to work on improving. You now know in your head what to do. You can prepare accordingly in the nets, and mentally. You also know that a certain ball got you out, and because as a team you've done your homework prior to the game, you know that opposition batsman X struggles with a swinging ball. You notice that when batsman 3 in our team went out, he struggled with the swing more from the north end as opposed to the south end. You've also noticed that we are getting less runs from the north end, which means it's probably swinging more and doing more from that side, so lets put our bowler who gets the swing on from that side against batsman X and utilise that swing.

I've just learnt how to improve as a batsman and what needs to be worked on in the nets, read the pitch, get an opposition player out, and utilise our best swing bowler all by one of our batsman getting out early.

[SpitfiresKent]

Did they play some sort of warm up? The commentator who was hyping Mavuta up said he had seen in a warmup that batsmen couldnt pick his googly. How would he have known that?

They were referring to the pre-match warm up. It might have been Ntini saying it, what a terrible commentator he is btw.