#ZCBOARD MUST GO

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Allan Chiura. Highly regarded top guy. He was a fantastic sportsman himself. My good friend used to play against him at school and claims he was the best schoolboy rugby player this country has ever seen, silky skills apparently, and he played first team cricket, and a medical specialist so he’s independently wealthy and smart, he’s not lived here for thirty years so he’s probably free of political baggage. He ticks a lot of boxes. The new ZC needs to grab him before ZRU does. He could probably be on both boards actually.

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I’ve been following tweets by the usual ZC supporters and the latest is that a message meant for Streak has been intercepted and it urges him to capture the hearts and minds of the Takashinga boys and this can’t be allowed to happen because it’s the whites manipulating Mlotshwa so they can take over the cricket again and the patriots must band together and not allow this to happen. These guys are sickening. I’m really hoping that people won’t fall for that. That has been the rallying war cry for decades and its one of the reasons why the country is on its knees. If it was meant honestly then that’s one thing, don’t agree with it but I understand it, but it’s done as a smoke screen to get their hands on money and to keep and gain control for personal gain. Only the guys at the top win.
Surely all but the dumbest of the dumb can see that we need honest capable people driving the bus or the cricket is finished. Every other sport we play is in the dustbin because it’s been taken over by incompetent political appointees that have destroyed nearly all Zim sport.
At least let Ellman Brown make a genuine attempt at saving this, if he’s successful you can toi toi in a couple of years and have another go at it, but in the meantime let’s save it first, we’re about to be flushed down the toilet.

This obsession of theirs about Streak is bizarre. He knows their souls, that’s what bothers them. He’s got a black kid ffs, he’s a Zimbabwean through and through. If Mhukulain and Makoni and co want to keep calling him a racist have an adopted white kid by their side so we can see they’re not. Enough of this shit. Stand down.

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https://www.sundaymail.co.zw/battle-for ... we-cricket
FOLLOWING a High Court ruling that nullified an urgent chamber application by the suspended Zimbabwe Cricket board, the Sport and Recreation Commission are adamant the game will not suffer stagnation as it will continue under the stewardship of the interim committee put in place. The SRC have also invited the International Cricket Council to second personnel to the interim committee.

Justice Joseph Musakwa dismissed with costs an urgent chamber application by the Tavengwa Mukuhlani-led ZC, which sought to overturn the SRC’s decision to replace them with an interim board chaired by veteran administrator David Ellman-Brown.

The ICC are expected to table the Zimbabwe issue at their full board meeting on July 18.
Following Justice Musakwa’s ruling, the SRC’s statement read in part: “One of the reasons for the dismissal of the application was that there had been material non-disclosure by Tavengwa Mukuhlani and other suspended ZC directors in their court papers.

“In respect of this attempt to mislead the High Court Justice Musakwa, at page 7 of his cyclostyled judgment stated,

‘The letter of 17 June 2019 was the acting chief executive officer’s response to the directive to suspend the elective annual general meeting. The acting chief executive did not address that letter in his individual capacity. He addressed that letter on behalf of Zimbabwe Cricket and the applicants. Therefore, it cannot be said by any stretch of the imagination that the applicant’s rights to be heard was violated. It is the disclosure of these communications that the applicants have suppressed in the present application. They have clearly not been candid with the court on this aspect and this should non-suit them.’’

The Sunday Mail Sport, however, sought to find out the cricketing background of the interim committee. Below are their respective profiles.

David Ellman-Brown (Chairman)
Ellman-Brown, born in Bulawayo and schooled at St. George’s College in Harare, is a former senior partner of Coopers & Lybrand, Zimbabwe. He has also held many directorship positions in Zimbabwe, including being chairman of Cairns Holdings Limited and Stanbic Bank Zimbabwe (a subsidiary of the Standard Bank Group).
His involvement in cricket dates back to the 1960’s when he was treasurer of the Mashonaland Cricket Association. He was also manager of the national cricket team from 1982 to 1990, including at its inaugural appearance at the 1983 World Cup.
He was president of ZC in 1992 when the country gained Test Status. Upon his retirement from Coopers & Lybrand, he became chief executive of ZC, during which period he was also a member of the ICC’s Finance Committee and its Cricket Management Committee.
In 1992 and 1993 respectively, he was made honorary life president of ZC and honorary life member of Marylebone Cricket Club in London, for his contribution to Zimbabwe Cricket.

Retired Justice Ahmed Ebrahim, SC
Justice Ebrahim was admitted as a barrister of Lincoln’s Inn, England, in 1962. He is a Senior Counsel and a retired Judge of the Supreme Court of Zimbabwe and Swaziland.
The Judge was chairman of Universal’s Cricket Club for 20 years. He has also been a chairman of a number of football disciplinary bodies set up in Zimbabwe over the years, including one that probed match-fixing in the sport, which became popularly known as Asiagate Scandal.
Ebrahim was a member of the Mashonaland Cricket Board for five years and vice-chairman of ZC. He was a member of the ICC as Match Referee for 10 years and has represented the ICC as Match Referee in almost all Test playing countries. He was the sole Appeals Commissioner during the ICC Champions Trophy in Sri Lanka in 2002 and an Appeals Commissioner during the Cricket World Cup in South Africa in 2003.
From November 2017, Ebrahim was appointed by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) as a member of the inaugural IAAF Disciplinary Tribunal charged with safeguarding the integrity of the sport of athletics.

Sekesai Nhokwara
Nhokwara has vast experience in education, sports leadership, administration and coaching spanning a period of over 28 years in both Zimbabwe and Uganda.
She is presently employed at the Harare International School as a head coach and coordinator. She is qualified as a National Course Director of the International Olympic Committee. Nhokwara was previously Zimbabwe Olympic Committee Development Commission chairperson and Uganda Olympic Committee Commissioner.

Cyprian Mandenge
A former coach of the national men’s rugby side, Mandenge is also co-founder of Old Malvernians Cricket Club in Harare.
From 2002 to 2005, he was a board member of Mashonaland Cricket Board and assumed the chairmanship 10 years until 2015, during which period he was also a member of the ZC Board between 2005 and 2013. He chaired the Cricket Committee, a sub-committee of the board and was also a board member of the franchise, Mashonaland Eagles.
Cyprian is presently the Sports Director of Eaglesvale Senior School in Harare.

Duncan Frost
An old boy of Churchill Boys High School, Frost played First Team Cricket, Rugby and Hockey for the school, before concentrating on club cricket. A knee injury forced him to stop playing whereupon he became heavily involved in the umpiring, coaching and administrative aspects of cricket.
Frost founded Badgers Cricket in Bulawayo, an organisation that assists under-privileged youth to play cricket. He sources and supplies kit to kids who cannot afford their own, all totally self-funded.
He was general manager of Cricket Operations for approximately two years at ZC before leaving for the private sector. During that period, he dealt with officials from various countries with respect to incoming tours (ODI and Tests), and also ran the First Class and List A program for ZC.
He is a member of Queens Sports Club in Bulawayo, where he assists with coaching and administration in the cricket section.

Robertson Chinyengetere
Chinyengetere is a legal practitioner with Harare firm, Matizanadzo & Warhurst.
He grew up in Masvingo Province, playing cricket at every age group level and making his First Class debut for Zimbabwe A against Bangladesh in 2006. Robertson retired from First Class cricket having played 30 games, 29 A List games and 4 T20’s.
Chinyengetere played for major clubs including Centrals, Southern Rocks and captained Masvingo and Southerns, winning the Pro40 Championships under the guidance of Monty Lynch. After moving to Harare, he founded Rainbow Cricket Club in 2012, which has produced a number of current Zimbabwe internationals.

Charlie Robertson
Based in Kadoma, Robertson was educated at Kwekwe High School. During his youth he played for the National U/15 Fawns side, and two tournaments in the Provincial Nuffield Weeks in 1973 and 1974. He played cricket for the then Mashonaland Country Districts for over 36 years, participating in the Logan Cup for 10 years, three of which he was captain of the side. He served as Mashonaland Country Districts as a board member for 26 years, five of which he was chairman. He was elected provincial chairman of ZC, but declined a board seat until a forensic audit had been carried out.

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The whites :roll: :roll:
Do they not realise how stupid they sound when they blaming the 20k whites left in a country of 10m :D :lol: :lol:

Honestly speaking about my white brother zimbabweans--- most of you have standards, minimum standards that must be met! Behaviours that must be met and these are non-negotiable. I'm not saying us blacks don't have them, we do i guess what it probably boils down to is not a black white thing but a schooling thing.
Most kids that go to private schools and are educated and schooled will not pt up with ZC bullshit.
Look at the sackings of the ZC support team-------how many white guys reapplied for their role after being treated in such a disrespectful way?
NONE-Streak/Klusener/Bell/Condon/James/Cremer/Lamb/Taibu gone!

Besides we know how the pathetic ZC incite racial hatred(incidently should be arrested for doing so) they bribe and promise youngsters a seat at international tables and money and cars.
Takashinge instead of being a step up for underprivileged players has become Makoni et al grooming ground for exploiting the players.

Anyway let's see what will be.

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Being a lazy Sunday and with less than FA to do I re-read this thread from the first post, including following all the links that were posted. It took a long time! :lol:
But it’s fascinating and has given me a slightly different perspective.
It’s nearly always only about the money!!
What is obvious to me is that SRC have box files of incriminating evidence against a lot of people.
They probably lack the smoking gun on the Metbank loan and all of the bank’s dealings with ZC and they’re not likely to ever get all of the information, even with court orders they’re not likely to get the complete dossier, but I’m certain they have enough pieces of the jigsaw to make various people trade their freedom for information. This loan has to go away, it frees up the cash we need to turn the ship around. The culprits own the bank, they can make shit up when they need to. I’m sure it’s been done already because it’s passed cursory scrutiny by supposedly impartial auditors.
Virtually no one important here has gone to jail for theft and corruption unless they’ve fallen out of political favour, and even when the powerful guys find themselves on the wrong side they dodge the pyjama suit. Even Chombo is still not incarcerated and they’ve got enough information on him to put him away for a thousand years. Practically all of the powerful politicians have used Metbank at some point and I don’t think anyone is prepared to allow anyone to rattle that cage, there are way too many skeletons in that closet. However I’m adamant that that loan was a cleverly thought out plan and that those guys have eaten enough from it and there’s a trade to be made, freedom is a precious thing.
The delay in executing what seems obvious is vexing me, clearly there’s a lot going on in the background, and I’d suggest that it takes time for untouchable people to grasp that the free ride may be over.
It’s also important to legally prove impropriety in order to save costs on terminal benefits, those alone will sink us and people have worked on the ZC gravy train for decades and it would not be morally correct for them to collect hundreds of thousands when hopefully they are shown the door.

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The Zolsky/Dombo saga continues on Twitter. You have to wonder how he gets confidential legal documents :lol:

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Now they should do a background profile on the 13 that were 'elected' and let's see the cricketing history there.

@jimmy, I went to private schools in Zim and some black kids had that same mentality (accepting the lowest of standards). It's not a race thing, its an anti-colonial thing.

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its an anti-colonial thing.
You think an internal hatred of colonialism yet using the products of colonialism such as roads schools cricket rugby swimming hockey buildings exams laws clothes etc that actually make sense.
Perhaps a culture thing where too much respect is given to elders and people in perceived power without querying them.

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Why isn’t there one single wholly black, well run private school in Africa or the world for that matter? The middle/upper class black folk have the money to do so,why don’t they? The constant bullshit complaints about white privilege would be no longer.
There were some brilliant government schools here, why are they in tatters? They were kept together by very middle class white folk who couldn’t afford private schools. No privilege here, better off than most black folk, but that’s not privilege, which implies being better off at the expense of someone else. Well they’ve all left and most are infinitely worse off.
When I see the list of non/late paying parents at private schools the bulk of them are seriously wealthy black parents who drop their kids off in $100k vehicles. You see but a handful of them watching their kids play sport as well. We need a serious conversation in Africa about black privilege.

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What's your gut feeling on what happens next Googly?

Does DEB have a hope in hell of turning this around or are these the death throes of cricket in Zimbabwe?

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