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Re: Some changes must in Zim Cricket..Frustrating to see old

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zimsupporter wrote:I dont know why Ebrahim, Rennie brothers,craig evans, wishart etc got chance to play in late 90's when they had other world class players....
They all got chance coz they were all talented and more importantly "hard-working' cricketers. They always performed beyond their limited capabilities. Wishy was dubbed future-Haughton very early in his career and it affected his batting. I vividly remembers his mt-winning 100 against India IN zIM, his test 100 vs Bang AND 90 plus against Windies in Lloyd trophy (not to mention 172* in WC). Other players also got chance to play against minnows but how many cracked 150?

Craig Evans was a typical ODI specialist who sizzled in Singer cup (vs SL, AUST). He and Paul Strang staged one of the finest comeback against India in triseries. Still remember the joyous scenes after victory when Craig carried Paul on his shoulders and ran towards dressing room. That mt was marred by rain...and i had to wait for the revised target..it was midnight in India and around 4 am in morning i was happiest man on earth when these two heroes staged a great fightback. Craig won a mt with his bowling too in Sharjah vs SL.

As per my favourite analyst J Ward-"John Rennie was a prime example of a cricketer who, though endowed with fewer natural gifts than most other first-class players, nevertheless made himself into a quality player and even reached Test status through his own sheer hard work and determination. As John himself says, "As long as you show keenness and want to get out there and play, with even a little bit of talent you can start achieving." True words for today's generation.

He had remarkable debut in the tied match vs India. Entrusted with bowling at the end of the Indian innings, he restrained Azharuddin and Tendulkar to four runs an over, and then came in to bat, last man in, with Zim needing a further 12 runs for victory. He struck a superb shot, right into the setting sun; the umpires eventually signalled four, although many, even in the crowd, believed it should have been a six. In the end, HS was run out and the match was tied. His bowling figures on those tours were not remarkable, but he was becoming known for his control of the ball and his ability to move it in the air. Same thing he continued in SAF triseries.

His brother Gavin was a superb slip fielder. His form was erratic but he was always considered compact player. He was the only in-form player in the rare series in SL where Andy failed and he supported middle order.He always flourished against Black Caps, be it ODI or Test. Also remember in India, the makeshift opening pair of Wishy-Rennie played really well and Rennie missed test ton only becoz of Srinath bouncer. His defiance of express pace of Shoaib with Younis was also praiseworthy in the abandoned Pak test.
zimsupporter wrote:I think some good players that Zim has produced at present are Craig Ervine, Greg Lamb ,Jarvis is the other talent, their is a lot to come from
Agree with first and last but never ever convinced with Lamby. The 50 over format of current series will actually prove whether he is worth or not.
zimsupporter wrote:I will never pick Chibabha, Vusi, MAtsi, Coventry even if they are in top of their form...Their are already good and talented players in my above team so bad luck guys!
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Re: Some changes must in Zim Cricket..Frustrating to see old

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zimsupporter wrote:I have been following zim cricket since 99 and to me zim in 2000 was the top side in the world...Zim continue to perform under likes of flower brothers, campbell, taiby, carlisle,streaky etc until the dark phase in 2005...Zim always had produced some talented players but I dont know why they end up picking some average players in the team when they have bunch of talented players in the reserves....I think Zim still has some talented players....Some players that still need to be back in Zim team are Sean Ervine, Ireland, Williams, Gavin Ewing and Marillier...Ebrahim,vusi, Vermulean,Matsi, Dabengwa, Nkala, Blessing Mahwire,Piet Rinkie, Terry Duffin, are not good players or they just cant perform under world teams...I dont know why Ebrahim, Rennie brothers,craig evans, wishart etc got chance to play in late 90's when they had other world class players....The good thing would be to drop all these players from national side and make them play in English county cricket of A side...
I think some good players that Zim has produced at present are Craig Ervine, wait and watch he is the next Zim trigger, Greg Lamb is probably suitable for home conditions but
their is no doubt that he can play long innings and bowl well...Jarvis is the other talent, their is a lot to come from him...MArillier,Ewing,Strydom,Coventry are unpredictable players and on their day they can win game for u..so they should be picked on times just for change to the team...Another thing Zim is lacking is the charm and leader in their team..PRosper, MAtsi,Hammie dont look as if they are playing for their team, they arent leaders...Players like Price,Chigumbura, Taibu etc always look happy and they seem to enjoy cricket....

So my side would be

Hammie
Taibu
Williams
Sean Ervine ( He is turning out to be the world class player...Ervine brothers are next in line for Zim after Flowers...this guy can bat and bowl well...he shud be in top 4)

Craig Ervine/Brandon Taylor( Taylor has been the backbone of middle order, when he doesnt click Zim batting seems to collapse...he should realize that he is our best batsman but their are other players who is of his equal potential and he probably cant make in our best 11 if he underperforms)

Chigumbura ( Genuine allrounder)
Blignaut ( Has to bowl, batting is secondary for him)
Lamb/MArillier/Ewing/Strydom ( In odi and t20, I will choose these players, Lamb goes to my first preference becoz other three players arent that good bowlers and we need sixth bowler in our team)
Cremer
PRice
JArvis/Ireland/Rainsford


Reserves
Prosper
Forster Mutizwa

I will never pick Chibabha, Vusi, MAtsi, Coventry even if they are in top of their form...Their are already good and talented players in my above team so bad luck guys!

I have a feeling that English isnt your first language, but this post is very hard to read.

....... <-- is not a break in sentence, its a pondering thought.

I couldnt tell whether you wanted Vermeulen in the side or not because you listed all the players you like right next to the players you dont.
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Re: Some changes must in Zim Cricket..Frustrating to see old

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:I have a feeling that English isnt your first language, but this post is very hard to read.

....... <-- is not a break in sentence, its a pondering thought.

I couldnt tell whether you wanted Vermeulen in the side or not because you listed all the players you like right next to the players you dont.
Ya I couldn't tell either mate, but must agree that most of the players that you've chosen as good prospects and poor prospects are good. Vermuelan needs to step up to the plate if he's going to play for Zimbabwe again, poor from will limit his chances. Greg Lamb in my opinion is a decent player. I think he deserves a chance to show us what he's capable of in the tri series coming up. Coventry's got one last chance in my book, then we should look else where A.K.A Craig Ervine, Gerlad Aleseni etc

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Re: Some changes must in Zim Cricket..Frustrating to see old

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I agree that Greg Lamb should be given more time to prove himself. Some on this forum seem willing to throw him overboard after a couple of series. He really hasnt performed any worse than anyone else in the side lately with the bat and his bowling has been a surprising bonus. He faired decently in english cricket and has played well domestically in Zimbabwe so he deserves a decent run in the national side.

Coventry and Vermeulen I find particularly frustrating players. They are so talented yet they produce good, long innings very rarely. I don't know how Coventry can equal the the ODI record score but then also look so out of touch soon after. Mark Vermeulen may still have a few gremlins to deal with which are holding him back - he did bust up a dressing room during the domestic T20. I almost wonder if cricket means too much to him and he puts way too much pressure on himself. I would love to see Vermeulen and Coventry secure their places in the national team but I am doubtful it will ever happen.
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eugene wrote:I would love to see Vermeulen and Coventry secure their places in the national team but I am doubtful it will ever happen.
I think you speak for every1 on this forum Eugene. If both these guys get in to some kind of form, they're more then capable of ripping bowling attacks to shreads. Though that's not been the case for some time now :(

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