Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
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Ya agreed. Wrong format.
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AussieZimFan
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Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
If they are going to target Higgins, they may as well try for Shane Snater. It's been 3 years since he represented Netherlands. Really on plays red ball cricket for Essex. Get him back into the fold for the the upcoming domestic season with a view to picking him by mid next year in time for the WC
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Why do they need him to move to Zimbabwe? Just have him play for Zimbabwe and spend rest of his year in England. He’s good enough for that
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Jeez I'd forgotten about Shane. Great bowler, and can hold a bat. Probably more effective than Higgins and Brad as a bowler. Accurate and skiddy.
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Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
ZC live on power trips. By allowing this to happen, they are saying that Zim Domestic cricket is shit, which they can't do. I've been saying for years that our mentality and ideas need to change. If we want to be challenging with the biggest teams, we need to approach things differently.firebreaker wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 12:23 pmWhy do they need him to move to Zimbabwe? Just have him play for Zimbabwe and spend rest of his year in England. He’s good enough for that
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Besides the T20 specialists are there any full member players who dont play domestic cricket in their country?
Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
It must be in the rules or something. If it was that simple all the Irish guys would be playing county cricket but they had to quit when they became a full member.
I suspect if you have a central contract you have to play domestic cricket when available. Also give boards the NOCs as well. The only guy I can see not living in Zim but playing for us is Tom Curran because he plays in the T20 leagues he wouldn't need a central contract
I suspect if you have a central contract you have to play domestic cricket when available. Also give boards the NOCs as well. The only guy I can see not living in Zim but playing for us is Tom Curran because he plays in the T20 leagues he wouldn't need a central contract
Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
I have said many times that someone like Higgins could live in London full time and fly in and out for the blocks of Logan Cup, limited overs stuff. He would be in Zim about four months a year.
They also made an exception for Mire.
They also made an exception for Mire.
Re: Ryan Higgins Turned Down Zimbabwe Approach
Its not that simple. Firstly it would be good for those guys to play here to strengthen our domestic.
Secondly they'd have to become overseas players wherever they're playing. Those counties generally give those slots to really top tier players who cost them a boat load of cash.
Thirdly assuming you could do that, counties wouldn't keep giving time off for national duty. Who'd make the final decision, the county or the country or the player?
Youd have to be a Kohli to breeze in and out of a county side whenever you felt like it.
Fourthly, if we have a full schedule you dont need to play much County or FC, youre playing internationals.
Bashir is an interesting case. Not first pick for his county but makes the national side. Thats not something you see every day. Somerset are going to come under scrutiny. Rian Ahmed is a better player (but is a leggie) and his younger brother is going to be even better. Rian is a damned good batsman as well.
There's pressure on ECB to always field an Asian descent player and pressure to find a couple of black guys as well. Joffra ticks one box. Tawanda Muyeye just needs a good vein of form and he's going to be in with a real shout.
One thing ZC could do differently is pay guys who are overseas the equivalent salary here to get them here. Well ideally it would have to be more because living costs are at least double here. This place is shit-house expensive to live decently. If you throw in private schooling its prohibitive.
They're unlikely to come unless they're more or less guaranteed to play for Zim either.
Zc dont want to see no black representation in the front 5 or 6 batters. They may be ok with it now and then but they definitely won't do it across all formats.
We have really good black batters genuinely challenging for those spots as well. The key front line guys are Maru, Dion, Kaitano and at some point Bawa will be in the mix. They're going to keep tinkering away to the detriment of everybody. Four shit innings from a white guy and he's out, 10 shit innings from a black guy and he's out. Maybe.
Another thing they could do is genuinely go after Muyeye. No guarantee he'd make it at international level though.
If they pick a side with the front 5 or 6 not being black then there's definitely no room for white seamers. I'm not trying to be contentious here or cause animosity but its a genuine problem that ideally needs resolving if we are ever going to field our strongest team and ever slowly start being competitive. Snater, Evans and Higgins are at least county level bowlers. They'd have kept that English line-up a lot quieter on day 1 and offered a helluva lot more batting wise.
They'd have made a better fist of it than Richie, TK, Nyamhuri and Victor who currently are not county level, let alone international level. They have to improve on the bowling and batting fronts. We can't have a tail of 4 bowlers, those days are long gone. If we had our batters all averaging 40 plus then maybe.
What's the solution? . Our bowling has to dramatically improve very quickly. Bowlers win games. A team with 8 non black guys is just not going to happen.
We could be a lot more competitive in tests with the following players-
Curran/Kaitano, Bennett, Williams, Ervine/Welch/Raza, Naqvi, BT (kpr yes!! Keep or dont play!), Burl/Wes/Masekesa, Higgins, Evans, Snater, Blessing.
We'd bat to 9 or 10 depending on whether Masekesa played or not. We'd have a strike bowler in Blessing and some handy seamers that can control the ball that can really bat.
Spin would be Burl, Wes, Bennett, Raza, Masekesa, Naqvi
I rate Kaitano highly, wonderful technique, and Curran is on a bit of thin ice with his 20's and 30's. Personally I think Curran is a good partner for Bennett and I'd keep him. I think Ervine's days are numbered. I dont think Raza wants to play test and I think Welch is going to be good. Raza wouldn't want to play in that team either. He's no longer top dog and he thrives in that role.
We'd have gone to day 4 with this team and even day 5 in a 5 day test. Fact!!! Absolute fact, in fact!
How important would that have been? We cant keep saying we've got new young players and we're developing, its not true. If you pick marginal guys then yes we have a developing side. If you pick the best players we've got we dont have a developing side for the 25th year in a row.
Secondly they'd have to become overseas players wherever they're playing. Those counties generally give those slots to really top tier players who cost them a boat load of cash.
Thirdly assuming you could do that, counties wouldn't keep giving time off for national duty. Who'd make the final decision, the county or the country or the player?
Youd have to be a Kohli to breeze in and out of a county side whenever you felt like it.
Fourthly, if we have a full schedule you dont need to play much County or FC, youre playing internationals.
Bashir is an interesting case. Not first pick for his county but makes the national side. Thats not something you see every day. Somerset are going to come under scrutiny. Rian Ahmed is a better player (but is a leggie) and his younger brother is going to be even better. Rian is a damned good batsman as well.
There's pressure on ECB to always field an Asian descent player and pressure to find a couple of black guys as well. Joffra ticks one box. Tawanda Muyeye just needs a good vein of form and he's going to be in with a real shout.
One thing ZC could do differently is pay guys who are overseas the equivalent salary here to get them here. Well ideally it would have to be more because living costs are at least double here. This place is shit-house expensive to live decently. If you throw in private schooling its prohibitive.
They're unlikely to come unless they're more or less guaranteed to play for Zim either.
Zc dont want to see no black representation in the front 5 or 6 batters. They may be ok with it now and then but they definitely won't do it across all formats.
We have really good black batters genuinely challenging for those spots as well. The key front line guys are Maru, Dion, Kaitano and at some point Bawa will be in the mix. They're going to keep tinkering away to the detriment of everybody. Four shit innings from a white guy and he's out, 10 shit innings from a black guy and he's out. Maybe.
Another thing they could do is genuinely go after Muyeye. No guarantee he'd make it at international level though.
If they pick a side with the front 5 or 6 not being black then there's definitely no room for white seamers. I'm not trying to be contentious here or cause animosity but its a genuine problem that ideally needs resolving if we are ever going to field our strongest team and ever slowly start being competitive. Snater, Evans and Higgins are at least county level bowlers. They'd have kept that English line-up a lot quieter on day 1 and offered a helluva lot more batting wise.
They'd have made a better fist of it than Richie, TK, Nyamhuri and Victor who currently are not county level, let alone international level. They have to improve on the bowling and batting fronts. We can't have a tail of 4 bowlers, those days are long gone. If we had our batters all averaging 40 plus then maybe.
What's the solution? . Our bowling has to dramatically improve very quickly. Bowlers win games. A team with 8 non black guys is just not going to happen.
We could be a lot more competitive in tests with the following players-
Curran/Kaitano, Bennett, Williams, Ervine/Welch/Raza, Naqvi, BT (kpr yes!! Keep or dont play!), Burl/Wes/Masekesa, Higgins, Evans, Snater, Blessing.
We'd bat to 9 or 10 depending on whether Masekesa played or not. We'd have a strike bowler in Blessing and some handy seamers that can control the ball that can really bat.
Spin would be Burl, Wes, Bennett, Raza, Masekesa, Naqvi
I rate Kaitano highly, wonderful technique, and Curran is on a bit of thin ice with his 20's and 30's. Personally I think Curran is a good partner for Bennett and I'd keep him. I think Ervine's days are numbered. I dont think Raza wants to play test and I think Welch is going to be good. Raza wouldn't want to play in that team either. He's no longer top dog and he thrives in that role.
We'd have gone to day 4 with this team and even day 5 in a 5 day test. Fact!!! Absolute fact, in fact!
How important would that have been? We cant keep saying we've got new young players and we're developing, its not true. If you pick marginal guys then yes we have a developing side. If you pick the best players we've got we dont have a developing side for the 25th year in a row.