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Someone should interview Doug Higgins, would be well-worth the read.
Neil Johnson, Alistair Campbell, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), Grant Flower, Dave Houghton, Guy Whittall, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Ray Price, Eddo Brandes

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Googly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:00 pm
Well that depends on a couple of things-
Firstly will they ignore the white guys, because they’re mostly (but not entirely) the guys that are leaving.
If they are non partisan in their selection will the white boys actually see it as an opportunity?
If for example they picked one or two white kids they might opt out because they would feel out of place because that’s a long time to hang with people you feel out of touch with. I’m not saying that would happen, but it might. Let’s see.
It would be quite interesting if we had the capacity and money to have a mostly white franchise, an extra one. At the end of the day, we’re pretty different from each other and the system in general has polarized us. We mistrust each other and with just cause. The time is not quite right for that because the economy is so bad and people have no optimism for the future, but if circumstances were different, it would be an interesting prospect.
To get better mileage in the Logan Cup or leagues in Zimbabwe each franchises should not have more than 4 white players & each team should be forced to have a least 2 non black player in a squad of 15...
Just an idea...

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Perfect example
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Rhinos won by 7 wickets
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Googly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:00 pm
Well that depends on a couple of things-
Firstly will they ignore the white guys, because they’re mostly (but not entirely) the guys that are leaving.
If they are non partisan in their selection will the white boys actually see it as an opportunity?
If for example they picked one or two white kids they might opt out because they would feel out of place because that’s a long time to hang with people you feel out of touch with. I’m not saying that would happen, but it might. Let’s see.
It would be quite interesting if we had the capacity and money to have a mostly white franchise, an extra one. At the end of the day, we’re pretty different from each other and the system in general has polarized us. We mistrust each other and with just cause. The time is not quite right for that because the economy is so bad and people have no optimism for the future, but if circumstances were different, it would be an interesting prospect.
Goodness me! Are we supposed to progress with such a mindset? Sad beyond words.

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Looks like the Rhinos are trying to turn into that all white franchise Googly. cant be the only person who noticed that. I think they are now based in Harare too which is a strange decision.

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Mueddie28 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:34 am
To get better mileage in the Logan Cup or leagues in Zimbabwe each franchises should not have more than 4 white players & each team should be forced to have a least 2 non black player in a squad of 15...
Just an idea...
Or simply select your best side, white or black..just an idea

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TapsC wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:57 am
Looks like the Rhinos are trying to turn into that all white franchise Googly. cant be the only person who noticed that. I think they are now based in Harare too which is a strange decision.
They aren't based in Harare. With national players busy, the team is full of young guys from Midlands and Mash West.

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http://www.herald.co.zw/logan-cup-form-excites-streak/

This article says Old Hararians is their new home. Maybe the journalist got it wrong.

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CrimsonAvenger wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:50 am
Googly wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:00 pm
Well that depends on a couple of things-
Firstly will they ignore the white guys, because they’re mostly (but not entirely) the guys that are leaving.
If they are non partisan in their selection will the white boys actually see it as an opportunity?
If for example they picked one or two white kids they might opt out because they would feel out of place because that’s a long time to hang with people you feel out of touch with. I’m not saying that would happen, but it might. Let’s see.
It would be quite interesting if we had the capacity and money to have a mostly white franchise, an extra one. At the end of the day, we’re pretty different from each other and the system in general has polarized us. We mistrust each other and with just cause. The time is not quite right for that because the economy is so bad and people have no optimism for the future, but if circumstances were different, it would be an interesting prospect.
Goodness me! Are we supposed to progress with such a mindset? Sad beyond words.
What are you sad about? My opinion or the reality on the ground? The guys are all mostly polite to each other and get along just fine, but naturally the whites gravitate towards each other and vice versa. Whenever you see age group tours the white kids room with each other and vice versa. When the older guys go for a beer it’s often the same situation. It is what it is. There’s no real animosity or anything like that, it’s just that true integration is a myth. It’s the same in South Africa.

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And you know what pisses me off? You can have Sunrise which is a Hindu Club, Universals which is a Moslem Club, Takashinga which is a black Club, but if you have White Rhinos the world comes to an end? Different cultures are embraced except for our white one? What if we don’t want to colonize, take slaves or whatever, but we do want to respect others but hang with our own, is that a crime?

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