Why can't Zimbabwe develop a tearaway quick?

[Black Mamba]

Not only fast bowling, quality allrounders are also missing. Once Zimbabwe had Guy Whitall, Neil Jhonson, Andy Blignaut, Travis Friend, Sean Ervine, who were 100% both with the ball and bat.

Level of Spinners has also gone down, spinners like Price, Strang, Murphy, Traicos were skilled and had troubled batsman of all top test playing nations. Now, there is no such skill, even Cremer doesn't fall in their level.

[The Robot]

Matigamu, Mark Olonga, Daniel Jakiel and Kevin Bowie are the ones who hit higher 140 kph.

[Andybligzz]

Not only fast bowling, quality allrounders are also missing. Once Zimbabwe had Guy Whitall, Neil Jhonson, Andy Blignaut, Travis Friend, Sean Ervine, who were 100% both with the ball and bat.

Level of Spinners has also gone down, spinners like Price, Strang, Murphy, Traicos were skilled and had troubled batsman of all top test playing nations. Now, there is no such skill, even Cremer doesn't fall in their level.

Cremer is a much better bowler than Murphy , he bowled some absolute Crap

[TapsC]

Which is why we need to invest in the duo of Ngarava and Muzarabani. They are only 19. With some proper training and gym sessions they could get a lot faster. Mangongo was saying they have a kid bowling quick as well.

I think a lot of it has to do with people playing multiple sports as well with cricket not necessarily being the favourite in high school. I don't know how it works in other countries but you will see a lot of these guys involved in athletics cricket and rugby. So you lose a lot of talent to other sports.

I think if we tap into the rural areas we could unearth some genuine quicks.

[Andybligzz]

Its a hard thing to manage and can easily be career over from a young age , when you find one you have to invest heavily and back them. Pat cummins Bowled 153 kmh as 17 year old playing in the big bash league . Through injury and change of action he's 140 - 143 on a good day , still quick as hell but scary to think he bowled 10 kms quicker 6 years ago . If we manage to find someone the hard work is only the beginning. Someone who can get it up to 138 is decent but once you get 145 its Gonna trouble a lot of good players and the weak players are found out. It's one of the best things about our game

[sloandog]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica ... 46599.html

Did anybody ever see this guy bowl live? Apparently he absolutely slammed it down. People keep comparing Rabada to this guy, so he must have been scary good. Just wondering of any guys saw this fella bowl? Hhm, Eugene, Maehara, Flakeman?

[ZIMDOGGY]

Still maintain that race and genes plays its part.

Countries that produce the fastest bowlers;
Windies= population 8 mil
Nz = 4 mil
Aus = 22 mil


Countries that do not;
India = 1 billion
Bdesh =100 million

Indias problem is they are a small race without the added benefit of protein from all those halal chickens that Pakistan eat.

Sims problem is they are short.
As much as 'melon would hate to admit it our fastest fast bowlers was 2 afrikaners,a Kenyan, and a few ndebeles!

[Bulawayo Boy]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica ... 46599.html

Did anybody ever see this guy bowl live? Apparently he absolutely slammed it down. People keep comparing Rabada to this guy, so he must have been scary good. Just wondering of any guys saw this fella bowl? Hhm, Eugene, Maehara, Flakeman?

I never saw him but he is mentioned in the book, "The Fast Bowler's Bible" written by Ian Pont - a great book that I give to all the young fast bowlers at my club. Apparently he was ridiculously quick but had some bone problem or something.

[pariah]

Zimbabwe needs to investigate what NZ is doing which seems to have a conveyor belt of fast bowlers.

They are a bunch of Ian Nicolsons. They either chuck or are wayward.

[pariah]

I guess Vitori is the closest we've had for a while?

But even with him (and Chatara, Mumba, etc) it's their effort balls that reach 140 not their stock balls.

Why can't Zimbabwe find some bloke who's erratic and inconsistent, but always gets it up around 145? What is it about our system (compared to SA for example) that means why don't find these sorts of bowlers?

They did find Ian Nicolson right - fast but erratic and inconsistent? Rumours here said he chucked that's why he was that fast.

Ngarava is fast but got spanked. Same with Mumba, Same will apply with Blessing.

There is no need for ZIM to be developing these fast bowlers. They should just come across the border to SA and get them. With the amount of money they wasted on Jarvis they could have got 3 decent pacers who would have been playing for Zimbabwe soon. Ntini could have arranged it too.

How many Pakistanis do you think will soon be embarrassing ZIM and(already did that) Bangladesh while operating in Afghanistan colours?

Anyway, in answer to your question, if ZIM could treat players like Jongwe, Madziva and Wellington better, while not remunerating them unfairly as well as in selections, I'm pretty sure lots of youngsters would by now be queuing up and be 140kph+ bowlers. Nobody wants to touch player treatment. It counts for a lot.

Do you honestly believe the Rabadas and Ngidis only fell out of the sky recently, or "quotas" and salaries forced the system to reveal just how many they are in existence already?