[MUGABE HAS RESIGNED] Zimbabwe celebrates!

[pariah]

Zimbabwean High Court!!!

1. Declare coup (military action) Constitutional

2. Declare Mnangagwa sacking by Mugabe as null and void (poor Joyce Mujuru if only she knew)

3. Declare the now eligible Mnangagwa the new President

All in one day!

I'll laugh hard in the face of any Zimbabwean who will ever complain about Zimbabwean courts in whatever matter. Along with the army, those are your heroes, and the courts in particular, is what "defeated" Mugabe.

Nobody saw such carelessness coming because no one would have dared to abuse that avenue so carelessly at this juncture, and as much as ZIM will never recover from the coup, the courts will never ever recover again. Even under Mugabe they have never ever stooped this low. The only judgements this pathetic and laughable over the last 50 years in Africa are the South African Apartheid ones.

Failed state confirmed!

[ZIMDOGGY]

Zimbabwean High Court!!!

1. Declare coup (military action) Constitutional

2. Declare Mnangagwa sacking by Mugabe as null and void (poor Joyce Mujuru if only she knew)

3. Declare the now eligible Mnangagwa the new President

All in one day!

I'll laugh hard in the face of any Zimbabwean who will ever complain about Zimbabwean courts in whatever matter. Along with the army, those are your heroes, and the courts in particular, is what "defeated" Mugabe.

Nobody saw such carelessness coming because no one would have dared to abuse that avenue so carelessly at this juncture, and as much as ZIM will never recover from the coup, the courts will never ever recover again. Even under Mugabe they have never ever stooped this low. The only judgements this pathetic and laughable over the last 50 years in Africa are the South African Apartheid ones.

Failed state confirmed!

Welcome to Africa.

[Googly]

Themba Mliswa is the new Minister of Sport apparently. He’s tried unsuccessfully and acrimoniously to get involved in cricket, it’s going to be very interesting to see if he bears a grudge or allows the status quo to continue.

[Googly]

Apart from Nkosana Moyo (RBZ), Samkange (justice) and Eddie Cross (environment) I’m afraid it’s more of the same. The brief honeymoon with meaningful change is over. Roll on the elections and the chaos that brings.

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Unless this is fake news. Hasn’t gone to press yet.

[eugene]

Interesting account of how the "coup" unfolded here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zimb ... SKBN1DQ0AG

Russia and China were certainly big supporters of Mugabe's removal.

[brmtaylor.com admin]

Interesting account of how the "coup" unfolded here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zimb ... SKBN1DQ0AG

Russia and China were certainly big supporters of Mugabe's removal.

Yeah. I think in the coming months and years we're going to see some interesting books covering the coup.

If that level of detail is coming out already, imagine when a bit more time has passed to piece the jigsaw together.

[pariah]

Interesting account of how the "coup" unfolded here: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zimb ... SKBN1DQ0AG

Russia and China were certainly big supporters of Mugabe's removal.

Yeah. I think in the coming months and years we're going to see some interesting books covering the coup.

If that level of detail is coming out already, imagine when a bit more time has passed to piece the jigsaw together.

You again overlook the basics.

When has the West ever lauded any Russian/Chinese action, plus turned a blind eye to corruption within the judiciary?

In weighing the Chinese and the Russians you only need to consider the treatment of South Africa by the coup leaders. The Zimbabwean army(in conjunction with the Judiciary) acted fast to fast track everything when South Africa (i.e. Zuma) was about to make a move. SA made it very clear that Mugabe is the only leader they recognise.

South Africa would not have acted contrary to Russia/China.

The West's coverage of this was so swift and thorough from the moment it began. Faster than any other source. newzimbabwe.com broke a lot of detailed stories and were used as a refence source by multiple Western aligned papers in America, Europe and SA. Where do they operate from? England! Ian Khama's(Botswana president) outspokenness and support of the Zim army's action, plus position on this is also a clear indication of his intimate knowledge. He's aligned to the West.

Leave Russia and China out of this. Their governments have already distanced themselves from this and called it a coup. The South African government and ANC officials long charachterised what was happening in Zim as a coup.

That is why I said Zimbabweans will never recover from abusing the judiciary in a manner that even Mugabe never even or would have never stooped so low as to abuse that way.

People should stop consuming all the info trying to make this a Russia/China instigated move. Their countries are not that careless. It was easier to oust Mugabe democratically, and they would have supported that quite easily if they wanted Mugabe out, not get their hands dirty unnecessarily.

The Mnangagwa faction aligned to some defence force generals who were about to get the sack/arrest colluded with the West. Plain and simple. Every one of them regrets using judiciary to desperately achieve their goal as they were being cornered by SA, SADC and AU, together with Russia and China, but at least they control the media and flow of information globally, and most importantly within the region as well as Zimbabwe now that national papers and broadcaster is under their control.

[pariah]

2017, November 7

In 2016, Tsvangirai complained to reporters that Western capitals that once supported him were now reaching out to Mnangagwa, seeing him as “pragmatic”.

All this did not stop Western interests from viewing him as some Kagame figure; an imperfect leader who would hold the country together and bring economic stability by merely ensuring order.

Even some of his opponents thought so. Eddie Cross, the MDC-T’s economic secretary, described Mnangagwa as a “skillful lawyer” and “a business man who understands business.”

David Coltart said Mnangagwa “understands the running of the economy better than Mugabe, better than most ZANU-PF politicians.”

A fateful article on Mnangagwa by the New Statesman magazine also thought so too.

“A Mnangagwa presidency might offer Zimbabwe one thing: economic recovery. He is sharp, organised and business-savvy; more pragmatic and less ideological than Mugabe,” the New Statesman said.

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2016, February 11

Last week, opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai sparked controversy in Zimbabwe when he claimed that foreign diplomats he’d spoken to had revealed a preference over who the country’s next president should be. Speaking to journalists, the MDC-T party leader said: “I was with one of the ambassadors [in Harare] who was talking about [Vice-President Emmerson] Mnangagwa being a pragmatist”.

Tsvangirai’s suggestion that Western diplomats favour Mnangagwa made headline news in Zimbabwe and re-energised debates about who will eventually succeed the 91-year-old President Robert Mugabe. Mnangagwa, a seasoned minister within the ruling ZANU-PF, is seen as one of the most likely candidates.

In the succession debate, the shifting stance of certain Western states has been deliberated amongst Zimbabwe’s political elites for many months now. And Tsvangirai’s assertion that Mnangagwa is the preferred figure is supported by sources in Harare and London. These insiders suggest that at least one Western country − the UK − sees the Vice-President as a reformer and an improvement on the man who has been in power since 1980.

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2017, November 8

There are several reasons why Zimbabwe’s President Robert Mugabe fired his Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa on 6 November. Many were likely to do with ZANU-PF infighting over who will eventually succeed the 93-year-old leader. But one external factor that contributed to Mugabe’s decision was Mnangagwa’s relationship with the UK.

Beginning in the 1980s, Mnangagwa has assured London that he would be a more effective and technocratic leader than Mugabe. More recently, this led British diplomats in the UK Embassy and some in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) to see the decades-long ZANU-PF insider as the candidate they could best work with and the figure most likely to implement urgently-needed economic reforms.


Many UK officials – foremost among them Catriona Laing, the UK Ambassador in Harare – also thought Mnangagwa was the odds on favourite to emerge as Zimbabwe’s next president. This belief transmuted into thinly-disguised support for him. The British embassy always denied supporting any particular candidate, but in Zimbabwe, the UK’s perceived preference for the former VP was discussed by journalists, politicians and others as though it were public knowledge.

With Mnangagwa’s dismissal, the UK’s alleged strategy has not only clearly failed, but its perceived backing for Mnangagwa prompted outrage among many Zimbabweans, further weakening the UK’s image in the country. Moreover, its support for Mnangagwa may have even contributed to his downfall.

The approaches of the UK’s diplomatic mission in Harare have now completely unravelled. Mugabe’s government is reluctant to implement necessary reforms, as evinced by its lack of consistent economic policy and refusal to reduce expenditure on an oversized civil service. Moreover, contrary to London’s calculations, Mnangagwa will not be taking over from Mugabe. The nonagenarian president has so far outmanoeuvred all his internal challengers and intends to run for another term in 2018.

The UK has made repeated flawed approaches to Zimbabwe over the years. At the heart of these has been a failure to apply history to diplomacy. This was most evident after the farm seizures in 2000, when the old colonial power openly sided with beleaguered white farmers, allowing Mugabe to construct UK intervention as neo-colonial. And it has been a clear factor in its recent misguided strategy for re-engaging the Mugabe government and its costly miscalculations over Mnangagwa.

Mnangagwa’s sudden dismissal from Zimbabwe’s political scene will require the UK to come up with a new strategy. This is necessary but also desirable. Ambassador Laing made a fatal mistake by openly siding with the subordinate of a president who is extremely sensitive to perceived colonial intrusion. Moreover, the UK’s support for Mnangagwa – a serial human rights violator – alienated domestic constituencies that seek to uphold the sanctity of human rights. In making its next calculations, a deeper understanding of Zimbabwean history and of the UK’s past role in it would go a long way towards alleviating London’s ongoing problems with Harare.

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That's why I long said it was completely foolish to reduce this to an army trying to save Zimbabwe from Grace. These actions were the West - UK in particular - working with the Mnangagwa faction to get rid of Mugabe and install their man. Leave China out of it.

They were careless but that's also because they were desperate and under severe pressure. They got what they wanted. Question is, did Zimbabweans get what they want? Just look at the state of Zimbabwe cricket after an ICC appointment rocked up. All media trying to hush the inevitable and impending distaster that will befall the game.

"Whoever controls the media, controls the peoples' minds."

[brmtaylor.com admin]

I'm not sure what your point is.

The West probably did pull a few strings in the background - although I'm not sure there's much they could have done other than give their thumbs up. If they had the leverage to somehow effect regime change without sending in the cavalry they'd have done it 15 years ago.

It seems like China played a bigger role, with those conveniently timed meetings with Mnangagwa and the generals in China in recent weeks.

You know happened? Mnangagwa and his inner circle have been courting everyone over the last few years. The West, the East - everyone. And when the time was right, there was no resistance because everyone was happy to see the back of Mugabe.