#ZCBOARD MUST GO

[TapsC]

I am pro cricket personally. I dont this has to be the end. 3 runs away fro qualification. Test win in Bangladesh. Series win in Sri Lanka. We are not dead yet. Funding guaranteed. Fixtures guaranteed. No debt. What else more do you want? As I said this is a historical grudge wirh people who have now found a way to bite back. The game has been in far worse situations.

Funny enough when we almost got suspended because of debt last year nobody cried. Why today do you want a fresh start? Something isnt adding up for me.

My point about the telecel deal is that they all have dirty hands.

[Googly]

Yes that Telecel deal has got muddy waters indeed. Encore finally made a bit of sense as well.
Let’s see what SRC have up their sleeve, if anything.

[zimbos_05]

Mlotshwa or SRC have not threatened anyone. The unpaid wages are a result of old ZC board, not suspension.

Mlotshwa and SRC have specifically said, "show up for work and we will detail the plan to you and how you will be paid. Money is already being budgeted for the domestic season". This has been said directly. It's been advised that monies will be paid under an SRC board. But people are being threatened by Mukhulani and his crew and fed false lies.

You keep talking about the series win in Sri Lanka but ignoring what has just happened recently under the ZC board.

Don't say no one was making noise because we've been making noise for years and begging for change.

The crux is, one is trying to do what's good for the game, the other is stroking his ego and ready to take the game down with him.

[brmtaylor.com admin]

Yes that Telecel deal has got muddy waters indeed. Encore finally made a bit of sense as well.
Let’s see what SRC have up their sleeve, if anything.

What's your gut feeling, have they got an ace up their sleeve?

When Mlotshwa was talking about the ZC reaching out to the SRC, that the door was open to them... it bordered on an admission of defeat at worst, and an eagerness to compromise at best.

[Googly]

Ya it didn’t sound good to me. They’ve got stuff on Mukhulani, of that there’s no doubt, but he’s got dirt to share as well. It should now be called a Zimbabwe Standoff, not a Mexican one. It’s why we have catch and release.
All these interviews have been sanitized. We want a proper mud slinging event.

[TapsC]

Mlotshwa or SRC have not threatened anyone. The unpaid wages are a result of old ZC board, not suspension.

Mlotshwa and SRC have specifically said, "show up for work and we will detail the plan to you and how you will be paid. Money is already being budgeted for the domestic season". This has been said directly. It's been advised that monies will be paid under an SRC board. But people are being threatened by Mukhulani and his crew and fed false lies.

You keep talking about the series win in Sri Lanka but ignoring what has just happened recently under the ZC board.

Don't say no one was making noise because we've been making noise for years and begging for change.

The crux is, one is trying to do what's good for the game, the other is stroking his ego and ready to take the game down with him.

Trust me the SRC cant sustain the ZC wage bill without other sports going up in arms. Impossible.

Anyway. We are 24 hours away. Lets see what happens. In the end a compromise will be reached I believe. Never get too personal or emotional with this. You will see a photo of everybody together in a month and lose your mind. This is Africa

[encore]

Trust me the SRC cant sustain the ZC wage bill without other sports going up in arms. Impossible.

Anyway. We are 24 hours away. Lets see what happens. In the end a compromise will be reached I believe. Never get too personal or emotional with this. You will see a photo of everybody together in a month and lose your mind. This is Africa

Let us for a moment entertain the possibility of a compromise that ICC somehow accomodates. Say Mukuhlani Chair and Vince Hogg Chief Executive, with Dave Ellman-Brown as part of the Board.

Consider this. While ZC had a board and Chief Executive, they appointed a certain Alistair Campbell as MD - who had sweeping powers which literally made him more powerful that the Chairman and Chief Executive as far as the running of the sport in the country was concerned.

This was all achieved without any "blood spilt" ... as opposed to this messy approach.

And what happened not long after that? Chairman Manase was outsmarted, with Mukuhlani coming in, and Alistair Campbell's powers so heavily diluted, and his outrageous benefits withdrawn by the Chief Executive he simply resigned.

ICC will not agree to anything without a timeframe within which to hold elections. SRC and some figures in the Interim Board do not have a plan of how to have Mukuhlani and Co arrested or render them unelectable.

Previous SRC-engineered Interim Boards thought they had a plan and promised as well to deal with Peter Chingoka and Ozias Bvute, but they did not.

The latest set of people claim to have a similar strategy, and once again in these past few days and weeks, it's clear that they have no plan.

The ICC knows full well all these promises that have been made and failed. It would not be the first time. Ask the likes of David Morgan, Malcom Speed, Dave Richardson etc. They have in the past flouted ICC regulations to accomodate Interim Boards in the hope that the "promised coups" would take place, and they never did. In the end, it was actually ICC figures who have lost their jobs and careers over Zimbabwe Cricket. It might not have been said publicly, but it was because they failed to deliver on promises having flouted ICC rules.

READ HERE https://www.smh.com.au/sport/icc-axes-s ... dsb6b.html.

Who within the ICC would take that risk, knowing full well that within that prescribed period, the so-called good forces will be defeated in an election?

The ICC's last roll of the dice was when it insisted on having its own man deployed there. Remember how widely reported unprecedented that move was? Yet the Pakistani Faisal Hasnain, arguably the most experienced ICC man on Finances and Adminstration came out and said there is no maladministration in ZC. Just a shortage of funds to finance the enormous budget, and no means to increase revenue. And he secured those funds(to BCCI) annoyance, cleared debt(I forget our South African friend who chipped in as well), and left. As far as ICC was concerned, all was giong to be well in ZC until the uninvited and unexpected SRC-Interim Board spanner in the works.

1.It would be a failure if any compromise still results in Mukuhlani being part of the recovery. Agreed?
2.The temporary compromise regime would inevitably be defeated in elections, no matter how free and fair.
3.Back to square one.

So why go through it all?

The ICC only needs to ask itself one question - What prevented these SRC and Interim Board figures from consolidating and waiting for the next elections cycle, while motivating for us or a legal independent body to be present to oversee those elections?

At least MDC could prove it had grassroots or ground support. Not the cowards.

jimmylesaint is still in the land of the living I presume...

[brmtaylor.com admin]

You're making a lot more sense in this stint hhm. What happened over the last few years
There's a lot of truth in that post.

[zimbos_05]

Trust me the SRC cant sustain the ZC wage bill without other sports going up in arms. Impossible.

Anyway. We are 24 hours away. Lets see what happens. In the end a compromise will be reached I believe. Never get too personal or emotional with this. You will see a photo of everybody together in a month and lose your mind. This is Africa

And you know this because...?

I am not on the let cricket die team. I understand we need the money from the ICC, but my point is that even with the money from the ICC, players are not being paid and money going where it should, so to say that the suspension is the cause of the lack of money is false.

Vince Hogg has said they have finances and are budgeting for upcoming domestic seasons and programmes, and I believe that they have the funds or backing to get the funds. They have done this before and know how it works so much so that they even have had ZC in constant profit.

The issue for me is that we have two sides.

One saying suspend us and let the game suffer as long as I am back in power.

The other is saying do not suspend us. Allow us to appoint an interim team to get things back on track and we have a set date for when this interim team ends with free and fair elections.

It's quite obvious which side to be supporting. Unfortunately, Zim is plagued by nasty people who do nasty things all for power and ego. They let people suffer for their own personal agendas. This can all be resolved by Mukhu and his board just stepping aside and telling the ICC to let the interim board take over. As it is, he has said cricket is a hobby and he much better things to do. So if he really cares about the game, he would do the right thing.

[ZIMDOGGY]

This can all be resolved by Mukhu and his board just stepping aside and telling the ICC to let the interim board take over. As it is, he has said cricket is a hobby and he much better things to do. So if he really cares about the game, he would do the right thing.

That’s the question though. Can it? Like Encore said. Do we have a say in it anymore? Million dollar question.

That said, I think if Mukhalani stepped aside and SRC made their case they probably could. I don’t have a defeatist attitude like some here.

Our problem is the world doesn’t care about us in cracks terms anymore. We are no longer the little brothers of the cricket world. Our position of curious outsiders has been subdivided and given to Afghanistan and Ireland respectively. I saw one article on fox sports in Oz about this drama at ZC.
15 years ago zim articles were common. They would play over the epic zim run chase on tv where Marillier did that scoop.
Now it’s too far in the past. A distant memory for fans, including zimbos and a financial burden for ICC.
That’s why after a lot of thought I’m in team ‘let it burn’ because it’s just speeding up our death by 3/4 years in ten gamble of making it great again.