[DRAFT 1] Kriterion_BD, eugene, CrimsonAvenger, jaybro

[Kriterion_BD]

With picsk 32 and 33, I will take:

Tendai Chisoro and Ryan Murray as my wicket-keeper (ultimately must pander to the crowd haha).

[eugene]

With picsk 32 and 33, I will take:

Tendai Chisoro and Ryan Murray as my wicket-keeper (ultimately must pander to the crowd haha).

Really, no love for Wayne James?

[eugene]

With pick 34 I am going with the exciting Dougie Marillier, our very own Action Jackson! I remember watching his debut series against New Zealand where he played a couple of good knocks up top, not to mention him later inventing the scoop against Australia. He may have been inconsistent but he features in many of my favourite cricketing memories. He was also useful with the ball.

Kriterion_BD: (#1) Heath Streak, (#8) Guy Whittall, (#9) Alistair Campbell, (#16) Craig Ervine, (#17) Kyle Jarvis, (#24) Stuart Carlisle, (#25) Hamilton Masakadza, (#32 Tendai Chisoro), (#33 Ryan Murray)

eugene: (#2) Andy Flower, (#7) Murray Goodwin, (#10) Andy Blignaut, (#15) Paul Strang, (#18) Tatenda Taibu, (#23) Duncan Fletcher, (#26) Tendai Chatara, (#31) Vusi Sibanda, (#34 ) Dougie Marillier

CrimsonAvenger: (#3) Grant Flower, (#6) David Houghton, (#11) Eddo Brandes, (#14) Elton Chigumbura, (#19) Sean Williams, (#22) Ray Price, (#27) Peter Rawson, (#30) Charles Coventry

jaybro: (#4) Brendan Taylor, (#5) Neil Johnson, (#12) Sean Ervine, (#13) Graeme Cremer, (#20) Sikander Raza, (#21) Kevin Curran, (#28) Barney Rogers, (#29) Henry Olonga

Eugene XI:
1. Vusi Sibanda
2. Dougie Marillier
3. Murray Goodwin
4. Andy Flower
5.
6. Tatenda Taibu (w)
7. Duncan Fletcher (c)
8. Andy Blignaut
9. Paul Strang
10.
11. Tendai Chatara

[jaybro]

Very much slim pickings now; I had born Dougie Marillier & Tendai Chisoro in mind for one of the remaining spots in my side

Very slim pickings indeed now

[eugene]

Very much slim pickings now; I had born Dougie Marillier & Tendai Chisoro in mind for one of the remaining spots in my side

Very slim pickings indeed now

I don't know, I can still think of a few former mainstays that haven't been chosen. We are still a ways off selecting the Alester Maregwede's and David Mutendera's of this world.

[jaybro]

Very much slim pickings now; I had born Dougie Marillier & Tendai Chisoro in mind for one of the remaining spots in my side

Very slim pickings indeed now

I don't know, I can still think of a few former mainstays that haven't been chosen. We are still a ways off selecting the Alester Maregwede's and David Mutendera's of this world.

I think we look back at guys from 90’s & early 2000’s with ‘rose coloured glasses’ guys like Marillier, Wishart, Ebrahim etc all averaged around 20 or below but are remembered as good solid players.

In comparison someone like Stuart Matsikenyeri who averaged around the same or a touch more is remembered as a quota player or a useless failure.

[Kriterion_BD]

Very much slim pickings now; I had born Dougie Marillier & Tendai Chisoro in mind for one of the remaining spots in my side

Very slim pickings indeed now

I don't know, I can still think of a few former mainstays that haven't been chosen. We are still a ways off selecting the Alester Maregwede's and David Mutendera's of this world.

I think we look back at guys from 90’s & early 2000’s with ‘rose coloured glasses’ guys like Marillier, Wishart, Ebrahim etc all averaged around 20 or below but are remembered as good solid players.

In comparison someone like Stuart Matsikenyeri who averaged around the same or a touch more is remembered as a quota player or a useless failure.

Quality of opposition. Granted averaging 25 against top opposition isn’t all that great. It’s Masakadza territory.

[jaybro]

Quality of opposition. Granted averaging 25 against top opposition isn’t all that great. It’s Masakadza territory.

Stuart Matsikenyeri actually played against the best and toured Australia, England & South Africa, so I think it's fair to say his numbers compared to the likes of Wishart, Marillier & Ebrahim are fair and on an even playing field.

The following links are career batting summaries for Stuey & Wish

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting

IMO both players are very similar; both were -

talented batsman who underachieved

Moved up and down the order to their detriment

Rebel saga affected their careers

Poor shot selection their biggest down fall

Retired before the best years of their careers

[CrimsonAvenger]

God this is tough. I thought about Marillier too, but at the end of the day, there are some sporadic good memories - 3 or 4. I was considering him when I ran the risk of not getting any frontline spinner, but not as an out and out top order batsman for sure.

[CrimsonAvenger]

Stuart Matsikenyeri actually played against the best and toured Australia, England & South Africa, so I think it's fair to say his numbers compared to the likes of Wishart, Marillier & Ebrahim are fair and on an even playing field.

Yeah agree. Matsi did get exposed to all quality opposition, but the only problem was, a bit too early. If they had waited till say 2006, we would have got a solid batsman who would have developed his game better away from the spotlight.