Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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chetanpatel1981
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Re: Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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Has he(Williams) changed his mind? As per link provided in last reply...Williams may withdraw his retirement.

I am an Indian...but my great respect to Williams and Zimbabwe cricket.

We need williams to be there in Zimbabwe cricket team.

Not happy with Rajpoot. Let Rajpoot go and let's have a good coach.

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Re: Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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So much about this has poor management on behalf of ZC.

If Rajput is leaving for Nepal, why was he allowed to be in charge of this tour, especially if he is a big factor in the discontent within the squad and particularly with our best player and test captain. If it was known he would be leaving to Nepal straight after the tour, then let him go and bring in an interim coach for the tour, remove the issues with the players and you stop this rift creation.

Secondly, Williams says he was not allowed into the bubble. I don't think that was Rajputs decision, but rather the board or Hammys. In which case, why were they keeping him out. Our test captain is wanting in and we are refusing.

Then there is the issue of the overhaul from Hammy. Why is an overhaul happening in which players and the coaches are not involved. If rajput is going, then he should not be having a say on the development of the current squad. The incoming coach should be having the input in what kind of overhaul needs to happen, and how it needs to look.

As much as I do not like Rajput and his current staff, the ZC board has failed again. Unfortunately, they will never ever be held accountable. I know Melhuli reads this forum. He is the man who claims to love the game so much yet always props up the board. He is a spineless journalist who can create the change we need, but is not doing so. He is instead propping them up with his toothless articles and quickly doing work to make all the current dramas seem as if it has absolutely nothing to do with the board and is solely all on Williams vs Rajput.

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Re: Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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chetanpatel1981 wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:51 am
Has he(Williams) changed his mind? As per link provided in last reply...Williams may withdraw his retirement.

I am an Indian...but my great respect to Williams and Zimbabwe cricket.

We need williams to be there in Zimbabwe cricket team.

Not happy with Rajpoot. Let Rajpoot go and let's have a good coach.
Sean W is a true captain
He stood his ground.
First why sideline senior players like BT and Raza just because...They made a quick u-turn after public outcry..Zimbabwe is going to Scotland they youngsters can play plenty, the focus should beating Ireland and collect points for the WC
2 Rajput's record is now being put in perspective, hey he might be a good coach but in Zimbabwe he failed and 3 years is long enough..He got to go
3 The Bubble instead..ZC should have made a public announcement, how many days of Quarantine and certain negative test to return to the Bubble
I think they is a conspiracy against Sean W which Craig was caught up into..That's why they made Craig captain to appease him why pissing Sean W
All I can say long live SEAN William My Captain

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Re: Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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If Sean is changing his mind then I think most of his issues must only be with Rajput. Otherwise he wouldn't have taken a U turn.

In any case Sean staying is a good thing for Zimbabwe and this team can achieve a lot of good things if they stay united and give it their best.

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All this is now sounding like ZC stage managing some excitement just to get some limelight on Rajput and getting him out of the way while keeping the non-performing understudies in Hondo and Matsi going for another stint. Hilarious. This can only (and always) happen with ZC. I'd not be surprised if these two + Utseya become pat of the new coaching setup "in the interim".

So, Rajput going doesn't mean a fan favorite gets that role. It doesn't work that way. It could very well be a case of "from frying pan to fire" scenario. But we fans get to speculate all names available under the sun and then we can start blaming ZC once they choose to go with whoever they want to go with :)

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To be clear I don't like Utseya, however the word from a lot of the parents of the Under 19 boys is that he is one of the few coaches in Zimbabwe who really makes his players work hard to hone their skills, a bit like Mangongo who I always had a bit of time for.

Grant Flower is the one I think ZC could get if they really tried.

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zimfan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:21 am
To be clear I don't like Utseya, however the word from a lot of the parents of the Under 19 boys is that he is one of the few coaches in Zimbabwe who really makes his players work hard to hone their skills, a bit like Mangongo who I always had a bit of time for.

Grant Flower is the one I think ZC could get if they really tried.
We all know how it turned out with Mangongo when he got the national team role.

Not saying Utseya is the same, just that sometimes, people who do well at the lower level are not always suited to the top job. We are not in a position to be experimenting either. We need to get back to a higher level and re-assert our authority over the likes of Ireland, Netherland, UAE, Afghanistan etc..

Utseya would be best to come in as an assistant or have a constant run with the A side to build up his craft.

What ever happened to the allegations that his coaching badges were false?

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zimfan1 wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:21 am
To be clear I don't like Utseya, however the word from a lot of the parents of the Under 19 boys is that he is one of the few coaches in Zimbabwe who really makes his players work hard to hone their skills, a bit like Mangongo who I always had a bit of time for.

Grant Flower is the one I think ZC could get if they really tried.
I have only ever heard feedback on him in regards to the China man bowler, but the feedback was he overworks him and is N injury waiting to happen as he is expected to bowl 600 balls a day in practice.
This was just the opinion of the person who was witnessing.

And yes Grant probably does make the most sense.
I’d like to see Brent as bowling coach (as we all do) and let’s bring in a foreign batting coach. Someone young and on the up who wants to make a name for themselves.
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I do respect the board and Hammy seem to have taken swift action to rectify things with Sean.
It makes me wonder if Sean approached them privately befriehand, and if he should have if not.
It might have been worked out under the cover of night and he may have learnt the Rajput plans.
It seems the staff knew Rajput was going but didn’t want to create animosity with the players by telling them, not realising that they were silently waiting for him to see out the contract.
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Re: Sean Williams to retire from Zimbabwe cricket

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:44 am

I have only ever heard feedback on him in regards to the China man bowler, but the feedback was he overworks him and is N injury waiting to happen as he is expected to bowl 600 balls a day in practice.
This was just the opinion of the person who was witnessing.
That's not good. That does not sound like a good coach. Coaching is not about working players into the ground. That is not how you develop them.

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