Glamorgan and Durham to tour Zimbabwe

[CalZim]

they always stream the wrong game

Glamorgan 7 down now requiring 30 runs, going be a great finish

[CalZim]

Why are they bowling Munyonga in these conditions? He has barely bowled all season, get Madhevere or Masuku back on!

[TapsC2]

At least 1 game was competitive.

[Googly]

Two guys made runs in one innings. It was a disaster.
It's a serious wake up call in my opinion.
Firstly if we continue to use $2 balls made from old goat scrotums in our 4 day cricket and then have to face a proper cricket ball that nips around bowled by guys that can land it on a dinner plate there's only one outcome. We don't have batters with the mental acumen to leave what needs to be left and with the skills to find runs off good deliveries. Period. The difference between 4 good deliveries an over and 6 is night and day to a batsman.
In a previous thread a long time ago I gave dire warning of the gulf between County cricket and our franchise stuff and I don't think there was anybody in agreement with me.

We've had County guys here off and on for a while and the gap is not obvious to most, but stick them all in one team and it's significant- that's cricket!
What we haven't had is pro seamers that land it on a dinner plate ball and give you nothing. Despite the fact that Durham are in tier 2, just look at their bowlers...and their batsmen. They're a top side.

Maybe a couple of the guys in the sides we put out will get a wake up and firstly realise they're currently hopelessly under equipped and secondly have the ability to go up a level. That gap may not seem like much but it's huge!
To be able to bowl 6 good deliveries an over is something we don't see of any of our guys, they will bowl you at least one pie an over. At least one!
Most of our batters don't know how to leave, how to play with soft hands, how to play down the line, how to nudge good bowling around, how to read the bowler, the field setting, the situation, how to manipulate the field etc etc.

We need a HPC and we need quality coaches, not Jimmy's uncle. We need to put the small handful of good young players we've got in there and get them to work hard or go home. We know ZC is a family run business, we're not asking then to hand over the banking and invoicing shenanigans, just the running of the cricket to people that know what they're doing.

Aside from our senior batters, ask these county coaches at the end of the month who they'd give a contract to from here. Madhevere might be the only one they'd consider looking at, but he can only dine off his God given talent for so long.

[Donald]

Gumbie batted well i guess. Faraz akram too and madhevere and ndoluvu looked ok.

[Googly]

Joylord used to be a very good junior batter and an electric keeper. He was always very talented. He's testimony to how ZC continually allow talent to escape/diminish/evaporate.

Faraz is proof that if you keep your cool and play to your strengths that the mental aspect is vital because he is not a particularly gifted batter. He knows how to hang around though. Good on him.

Madhevere needs to spend more time on his bowling because he is a genuinely good bowler, a gun fielder and a supremely talented batsman that has his head up his arse in this dept.

[secretzimbo]

I don’t think Joylord has looked even remotely good for at least the last ten years with the bat, you have to go way back into school cricket for when he was last on the radar. He's let his keeping go too, 3rd choice for his franchise this year.

But He must have been working hard to go up a level, he’s in very good form and an excellent hundred against that attack is a big achievement. Shows what you can do if you put the hours in in the nets. Somebody should tell Madhevere! And some of our other guys.
The good thing is that guys like Madande, Marumani and Shumba have good reputations already for being hard workers and always training hard so I have faith in them.


The gap between county and Zim domestic is massive for sure, no doubting that. There’s plenty of guys selected in these teams this week who obviously won’t ever make it at a higher level.

I hope we see full strength sides for the white ball series. Add in the ten or so missing national players and I think we will be competitive.



Googly is right about the need for a high performance centre/programme, but I can't see it happening any time soon. They seem intent on sticking with the current structures.
I wonder how much the recent uptick in senior club, junior and school cricket in various provinces is costing? Surely all being subsidised by ZC....must be costing a fair bit.
It' the age old question of Grassroots Vs High performance. As fans we all want the latter but I suppose ZC's remit and responsibility is both.

[mnelson68]

Joylord used to be a very good junior batter and an electric keeper. He was always very talented. He's testimony to how ZC continually allow talent to escape/diminish/evaporate.

Faraz is proof that if you keep your cool and play to your strengths that the mental aspect is vital because he is not a particularly gifted batter. He knows how to hang around though. Good on him.

Madhevere needs to spend more time on his bowling because he is a genuinely good bowler, a gun fielder and a supremely talented batsman that has his head up his arse in this dept.

Totally agree

[mnelson68]

Two guys made runs in one innings. It was a disaster.
It's a serious wake up call in my opinion.
Firstly if we continue to use $2 balls made from old goat scrotums in our 4 day cricket and then have to face a proper cricket ball that nips around bowled by guys that can land it on a dinner plate there's only one outcome. We don't have batters with the mental acumen to leave what needs to be left and with the skills to find runs off good deliveries. Period. The difference between 4 good deliveries an over and 6 is night and day to a batsman.
In a previous thread a long time ago I gave dire warning of the gulf between County cricket and our franchise stuff and I don't think there was anybody in agreement with me.

We've had County guys here off and on for a while and the gap is not obvious to most, but stick them all in one team and it's significant- that's cricket!
What we haven't had is pro seamers that land it on a dinner plate ball and give you nothing. Despite the fact that Durham are in tier 2, just look at their bowlers...and their batsmen. They're a top side.

Maybe a couple of the guys in the sides we put out will get a wake up and firstly realise they're currently hopelessly under equipped and secondly have the ability to go up a level. That gap may not seem like much but it's huge!
To be able to bowl 6 good deliveries an over is something we don't see of any of our guys, they will bowl you at least one pie an over. At least one!
Most of our batters don't know how to leave, how to play with soft hands, how to play down the line, how to nudge good bowling around, how to read the bowler, the field setting, the situation, how to manipulate the field etc etc.

We need a HPC and we need quality coaches, not Jimmy's uncle. We need to put the small handful of good young players we've got in there and get them to work hard or go home. We know ZC is a family run business, we're not asking then to hand over the banking and invoicing shenanigans, just the running of the cricket to people that know what they're doing.

Aside from our senior batters, ask these county coaches at the end of the month who they'd give a contract to from here. Madhevere might be the only one they'd consider looking at, but he can only dine off his God given talent for so long.

Spot on

[Donald]

For the life of me i cant think of anyone up and coming who was left out and deserved to be in the southerns and northerns eleven.
Maybe shumba or sydney murumbo.

Apart from faraz and gumbie we were outclassed