Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 2025

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Re: Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 20

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ZIMDOGGY wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 12:55 am
secretzimbo wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 4:36 pm
Heard BT is coaching Takashinga currently and will play for them when his ban ends in July.
Making him kiss the black ring for a season or so to get in the good books with ZC you think?
No. ZC want BT as much as he wants them. They’re probably desperate to not fail at the qualifiers again and think he’s the man to prevent that.

They’ll likely have strongly encouraged him to play for old winstonians so Sogo don’t get him :lol:

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Re: Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 20

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tawac wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 4:36 am
Looking at the scorecard you think Zimbabwe is playing an A side as opposed to a bunch of teenagers. One ponders to think what will happen when we meet the English team proper. 600/0 declared
12 wickets on day one, 8 on day two and 5 yesterday, Mousley 154, De Caires 84 and Rew 62*, starts from everyone else. It’s not flattened out into a road though, I don’t think :lol: watch it turn into a complete minefield today.

A very tough day. Several questionable LBW appeals rejected including Blessing in the first over of the day :lol: :lol: literally everything was in line. Only positive is they reduced the number of extras compared to the first innings. Still loads but improvement is improvement hey.

PCC Select XI got a 314 run lead now, not sure that’s enough, maybe another hour from then and declare.

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Re: Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 20

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 11:29 pm

BT, Naqvi and Raza middle order maybe in the latter part of the NPL.
:lol: :lol: they’ll still get sogolized

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tawac wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 4:30 am
Just wondering if Andy Flower too was doing kisses when he played for the Old Winstonians.
No he went there because they were literally the only black club and realised they needed help and Zim cricket wasn't going forward without them. They got a free pass into first league year after year and were going nowhere. It would have been very interesting had he not gone there because they'd have continued losing practically every game, not because they lacked ability, but belief. The only way out would have been for ZC to completely dismantle club cricket, which they did anyway and basically Takas was the only club left, then they claimed they'd kept the flag flying, thoroughly disengenuous.

Its now the polar opposite, other clubs desperately need help and everyone is sick and tired of the undue influence Takashinga has. 90% of the country enjoys Takas getting beaten and its now good for our cricket and not bad. We need another 5 or so good clubs and then we will be back to where we were 35 years ago. That's the sad fact of it. The money that has been invested in Takashinga could have had 5 good clubs on the radar by now, had they had decent management of course.
There's only one big club rivalry now and that's Takas and Rangers. Its a start. Its partly down racial grounds, which is not good, but better than nothing. I don't get that from the players, it's Takas management that has spitefully created that, major PTSD from the madalas. Raza, BT and Knackers playing for them is a bit weird. Its miles from where they live and what's the upside for them? They don't need to play there to be on the radar. That's Takas beefing up their side to take on Rangers. They've made it clear they're a black club so let them be one, yet it's upsetting if theres a "white" club. Two sets of rules as usual. Why would you want to play for a club that brands themselves as black if you're not black? Again it's disengenuous to claim Rangers brand themselves as white because they don't and can't, but the powers that be have tried to make it into that and it's simply not true. I mean to go to the extent of approaching individual players and warning them not to play for Rangers is pretty low level stuff. Its hard to blame any black guys for leaving under that sort of pressure and then unfortunately it would become a white club and the black white thing rears its head. I know guys who've been issued stern warnings and by who. Its just ridiculous.
Rangers actually has too many players, there's room for another whitish club so you could have two clubs that were 50/50 white and black and they'd be strong as well. ZC would unreasonably impede that and make them qualify for first league, which is a long process. You could have Rangers 1 and 2 in fact, if SOGO were willing to sponsor it. They've got a young second team but you could split their first team players down the middle and really strengthen club cricket. That's what BT, Ballance, Knackers and Raza should be looking at. One extra strong team and not just helping Takashinga, who have the largest player pool x10 to be even stronger, it's just backwards thinking. Its what directly created the mess we are in and theyre repeating the same mistake. Zero learning curve.

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tawac wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 4:36 am
Looking at the scorecard you think Zimbabwe is playing an A side as opposed to a bunch of teenagers. One ponders to think what will happen when we meet the English team proper. 600/0 declared
Hopefully that's not how it works. :lol:
Batters make mistakes, bowlers bowl jaffers. I'm a stuck record I know, but they made a mistake not making Evans a late inclusion. The wayward bowling we've seen from our guys is thoroughly alarming. TK's late call up is great for him, but he's as wayward as it gets. Bowls quick, but not enuf to trouble top batters, bowls some great stuff when hes on a roll, but hes all over the place.
Its imperative we improve our bowling tout suite or we're getting a savage beating.

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Looks overcast today. Its a different game in overcast conditions.

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I see Madande is keeping, I think k he was yesterday as well.
He will have to go some to bat better than Tsiga who has been excellent with the bat.
I'm guessing they'll declare on 400 lead

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Googly wrote:
Sun May 18, 2025 10:13 am
TK's late call up is great for him, but he's as wayward as it gets. Bowls quick, but not enuf to trouble top batters, bowls some great stuff when hes on a roll, but hes all over the place.
Its imperative we improve our bowling tout suite or we're getting a savage beating.
Chivanga really did hit a rich vein of form going into that Ireland test before he got injured. He just came back a shadow of his old self. Hasnt really replicated the level of form or re-theme he had back then. Dont see him playing though and if anything be said Matigimu should be ahead of him at the moment. Apparently he is injured too or gone back to uni whatever the case. Evans has to dig in and hope to get back on the good graces of the selectors. But with Nyamhuri and Gwandu hanging about its hard to see him making the side at the moment.
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Re: Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 20

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Well that went as expected. They have bowled really well at us. Most deliveries on the money.

Poor shot from Curran.
That shot from Bennett that's always going to get him runs and also going to get him out. He just stands on his crease and uses his hands, and does it very well, but somehow needs to pick and choose which of those to go after more carefully. The good guys will be happy to see him play that shot and feed that area all day and wait for the mistake. Probably needs to play one of those an over and then watch the rest, hes a bit compulsive.
Williams trying to turn it before he's got the pace of the wicket.
This Killeen guy has got NW cheaply a few times with that one that nips in. I dont think I've ever seen a top order bat just walk at every delivery in red ball like that, I mean every single delivery. He did it well though but it's a temp fix to whats clearly a little glitch. Surprised the keeper didn't stand up so Killeen could bowl at him. I see he's now trying to stay inside the ball to take out that gate issue, whereas before he preferred playing off his pads. That's a big change he's making. That one that beats him thru the gate he has to fix. I think he perhaps doesn't step across enough and is late on it at the same time. A lot of players just step down the track and just use their hands, he'd be better off coming at the ball more.

This spinner is landing it already. We're going to be hard pressed to draw this.

In my opinion we need another match for more prep, but its too late for that now.

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Re: Professional County Club Select XI vs Zimbabwe | Men’s First Class Match - Only Tour Match | 15 May 2025 - 18 May 20

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Absolutely no need for BT to come back as a player. Infact it's probably time for Ervine and Williams also to leave and not to target WC 2027.

Bennett, Curran, Welch are capable replacements and there is a case for Matt Welch and Antum Naqvi, these players are the future. Zimbabwe must look past the old guard, with due respect.

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