Logan Cup Round 7: Rhinos vs Rocks & Tuskers vs Mountaineers (25th-28th Feb)

[aydee]

For what it's worth, I definitely do rate Welch, and it's a shame he's not getting game time.

For the sake of balance though...

Mawadzi has an almost identical career record with the bat, and also contributes with the ball.

[Googly]

Identical I guess is subjective.
He averages 19 and 16 in the 2 formats. He takes one wicket per innings and he's a very average bowler. Its there on ESPN
And at 30 he has got zero chance of improving. Less than zero.
Prior to this season MW was shading 40 and still on 35.
You cannot surely be serious?

I see they finally played MF today and even Chatara couldnt in good conscience give Mwadzi a single over
Result? Tuskers rolled for 160.
Chatara will be in hot water.

[Googly]

If they played Mike Frost, who is twice the bowler and twice the batsman theyd actually have an all-rounder that is a genuine threat and even a contender for national duty one day. Knocks on Ireland door can barely get a game for a shit frsnchise team. C'mon
If they stopped playing 2 and sometimes 3 wicket-keepers and just played Gumbie and Welch and rotated their duties they'd maybe start winning again.
You just have to see what they were doing when they were winning and rinse and repeat.

What is clear as day is winning is completely unimportant. The only thing that matters is "the plan"

Do you know the Mountaineers "selectors?"

If Steve Smith and Pat Cummins came here in disguise and had a try out in the nets they would not crack the Mountaineers side. I'm not even joking. Thats the depth of knowledge in that camp.

[Googly]

Well it's not really about knowledge, so that's a moot observation.
You nailed it with the word "balance"

[Googly]

You know that the threatening messages to sort things out there and to the umpires to "level things" have been seen by quite a few folk? It always comes out in the wash eventually. Our system is poisonous.

[Pat_Bee]

If Steve Smith and Pat Cummins came here in disguise and had a try out in the nets they would not crack the Mountaineers side. I'm not even joking. Thats the depth of knowledge in that camp.

I think on balance they’d be interested in smith. Sandpaper and shenanigans is right up their street

[aydee]

Identical I guess is subjective.
He averages 19 and 16 in the 2 formats. He takes one wicket per innings and he's a very average bowler. Its there on ESPN
And at 30 he has got zero chance of improving. Less than zero.
Prior to this season MW was shading 40 and still on 35.
You cannot surely be serious?

I see they finally played MF today and even Chatara couldnt in good conscience give Mwadzi a single over
Result? Tuskers rolled for 160.
Chatara will be in hot water.

Mawadzi averages 35, Welch averages 36. In First Class cricket, which is the format in question. Mawadzi averages 22 with the ball, but as you say, at a rate of 1 wicket per innings, so no more than a decent part timer.

Clearly Welch has the higher ceiling, given their ages. He also has a superior (batting) record in the white ball formats, despite his List A record being a bit underwhelming and T20 record being frankly dreadful (avg 12, SR 105).

The point I was making more was that Mawadzi is probably the wrong target. Magodo is the one who seems an odd pick. After an encouraging start to his career in List A cricket, he hasn't made any significant runs for a long time, at pretty much any level. Neither has he ever really made runs in FC cricket. I struggle to believe that his keeping is so much better than Gumbie's, to merit playing just on that basis. However, I haven't seen enough to really judge. Welch more or less never keeps in 4-day cricket. Perhaps due to his history of back issues?

Belated opportunity for Frost in red ball cricket. He went OK today. He's probably only got one more round of games though, as he won't play ahead of Masakadza, and I can't see them both playing in a 4-day game - although they did a bit in the 2nd set of T20s.

[Googly]

Ya sorry I misread Mawadzi's stats, my bad. 19 innings, not avg 19. Apologies.

My target is mind numbing selections, but that kinda has to be done at the expense of pointing out players' faults, which is not nice. We all do it, but it's not lekker.

Frost actually has a higher ceiling than Wellie in my opinion.
Wellie is a decent player, but had MF been given more exposure over the last 2 years I reckon he'd be a nose in front by now.

There's no contest who you pick between DM and MF.
If Wellie plays and they dont want to play Frost then you surely go with the extra batter. That's MW all day over a 30 year old that doesnt have a match winning innings in him.
100% Magodo, Bonyongwe et al should not be part of the conversation, but selectors think otherwise.

It begs the question who selects...as usual.

[Andy31]

Just looking at the team sheets. Could M Welch be injured or away. His not even listed as a sub.

[secretzimbo]

Welch has been in horrendous form but if you know the slightest about cricket or have watched any of these people since they were kids, you are fucking clueless if you think MW and the likes of Bonyongwe, Mawadzi or Magodo or anyone else are in the same league.


Sorry but it says a lot about how informed some of our forum members are.