NZ Warm Up Match Thread

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Re: NZ Warm Up Match Thread

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FlowerPower wrote:
totoro wrote:Vitori was a bit expensive, he might be too much of a risk if the pitch is as flat as everyone says. I'd much rather see Meth or Shingi take the new ball with Jarvis. :D
True that, I've always maintained (and I almost hear Conant claiming I'm uncharacteristically digging my heels in) that Meth is a Mpofu replacement and Shingi can only replace Jarvis or Vitori...purely because losing Mpofu means losing control, control that Shingi doesn't have but Meth has.

Having said that one would need to look at the the 8 no-ball problem and ask can it be corrected? If so then the figures wouldn't look so bad, let's see what happens second innings before concluding.
I missed the 8 no-balls, hopefully he can fix that quickly. :? Good batting so far from Mawoyo & Hamilton, hopefully they can get some exposure to Vettori tomorrow before the test match.

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I'm tempted to say TMK has now found a comfortable seat in the Test XI changing room, judging by the first 42 balls he's faced at Stumps.
His current strike rate stands at 54.8% compared to Masakadza's 35.7% after having faced an identical number of deliveries.

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PSR wrote:Zim 39/0 at stumps . good start by the openers
Definitely a good start, but one has to temper the optimism as this is only 25% of the NZ attack, Bracewell, Southey and Boult all to come in....but Mawoyo and Hami makeshift has been ok. Bowling startedbvery well then kind of lost the initiative when they got to the middle order where Wattling and Vitori showed what's to come...Vitori suffering from no balls Chigs expensive, but Shingi and Meth encouraging and Jarvis showing consistency...
1. Mawoyo 2. Duffin 3. Sibanda 4. Taylor 5. Masakadza 6. Williams 7. Chakabva 8. Creamer 9. Jarvis 10. Rainsford 11. Mpofu

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Vitori is still our most dangerous bowler IMO. I wouldn't drop him for the Test because of things which can be corrected, like these no balls.

I'd like to see BV and Meth take the new ball and Jarvis coming in as first change
Vusi, Mawoyo, H.Masakadza, Taylor, Ervine, Williams, Mutumbami, S.Masakadza, Meth, Price, Jarvis

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Spot on mate. It would be unfair to leave Vitori out based on this one performance.

The attack looked very competent today.With the second new ball due they were certain to mop up NZ for low 300's.Can't expect much more from them.
I support the idea of employing the fast bowling quartet leaving out the spinner or Chigs.

Forget about the balance. Sometimes it is important to go sideways and think from unconventional angles if you are an underdog. Besides Zim have nothing to lose.
Meth and Shingi between them will be able to provide the much needed depth to the batting and more importantly the threat factor to the bowling.

Another option is to play Chigs as a batsman leaving out both Chakabva and Forster.
I am beginning to believe in this attack since they were able to dislodge the cream of the batsmen Williamson (whom I am betting on to topscore in the test and 90% of the time for NZ going forward) , Taylor (who kept the aussies at bay in hobart) and Vettori.

I am guessing this is flat track based on the fact that both Tino and Hami batted for 15 overs, so kudos to the bowlers.

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Same old, same old. Zim's poor opening bowlers fail to claim more than a single wicket each! That was very much predictable! (I keep saying this, just find it funny that some actuallly expect them to do better when the trend is that they won't!). It's irrelevant to judge their second innings performance because NZ won't need it! Won't bother going into the no-balls, that's meant to be Shingi's speciality - how the roles are quickly reversing. A sign of what's come perhaps?

Glad to see Cremer toiling unsuccessfully as well. Wasted plane ticket. Utseya should've been receiving warm-up for the ODIs! What more can you expect from Meth! It seems Shingi is really determined! He together with Meth & Elton took the 3 real wickets in that NZ XI lineup - Kane, Ross & DV! Such a pity that only two out of those three, along with Price, WILL have to do all the work in the Test match!

If(and I hope) Elton is included, he'll have to seriously do something about that pathetic run rate. He's our best bowler against LH batsmen, but NZ have just one if I'm not mistaken, Daniel Vettori! He's got his work cut out because tight, effetive overs WILL be required of him!

I fancy Matsi getting a spot ahead of Regis & Forster. His part-time spin, together with Waller can relieve BT of the pressure. With Jarvis & Vitori, plus maybe Shingi if he's included, being shown to all ends of the ground wicketless, I doubt they'll bowl that many overs per day.

Meth has done well, so unless they drop Vitori(which wouldn't be unfair but logical), Shingi WILL sit this one out. We're far too thin on batting to consider dropping Elton for a bowler - the balance will be totally wrong, that's important! METH IS NOT AN ALL-ROUNDER, SHINGI'S BATTING SHOULD NOT BE VALUED!!!!!!
1.Tino, 2.Hami, 3.Taylor, 4.Taibu 5.Waller, 6.Matsi, 7.Elton, 8.Meth, 9.Price, 10.Jarvis 11.Vitori

I would've liked to see Rob Nicol being brought in to open with Guptil, while McCullum drops down the order, but BJ Watling, looks to be up to it. Nicol will have to wait, while McCullum gives one of Vitori/Jarvis a chance of their only wicket! :D

Smart move by NZ to give our batsmen a bunch of nothing bowlers! Chris Martin's figures highlighting the gulf between the attack we'll face and this rubbish (if an early wicket falls during the Test, Taylor has to be moved out of the order to get him forced out of the attack). Real pity to see us making heavy work of it. Harsh, since the positive efforts of our bowlers are commendable, but we should really be going hard at sub-standard bowlers. It's a 3-day game not a Test match, and we'll have to make a sporting declaration! NZ had lost three wickets in roughly the same amount of time, but kept going - overall SR 62! I expect to see us go at over 4rpo, force the NZ technical team to think defensive.

Wells looks handy, so if Ryder messes up something in training while trying to bowl again he should be should push Franklin for the replacement slot. They're proper all-rounders. So if it does come to that, at least our guys have had a look at him.
1Mawoyo 2Vusi 3Hami 4Taylor(c) 5Craig 6Matsi 7Taibu(wk) 8Elton 9Cremer 10Rainsford 11Mpofu 12Jarvis

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hhm wrote:I fancy Matsi getting a spot ahead of Regis & Forster.
The fact that Matsi does not feature in this match is a clear indication they only took him for the limited overs stuff.
hhm wrote:Smart move by NZ to give our batsmen a bunch of nothing bowlers!
McKay, Martin, Wagner is a pretty decent attack. McKay has (or had - I think he had some injury problems lately) genuin pace and was considered the future of NZ pace bowling not long ago, and great things are expected of Neil Wagner, who had to serve his qualification period after emigrating from SA. No doubt that he'll soon feature in the test side.

On a whole a good work out for the bowlers. The only worry are the number of no-balls Vitori bowled. I remember he had a bit of a problem going wide of the stumps when bowling around the wicket and therefore not overstepping but landing on the return crease.

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Decent effort by the lads, good to see that the seemers have the abilty to take wickets up front, still no nearer of finding out who will win the battle between Masakadza/Meth.

good to see Tino score a few runs as he really has not been amoungst the runs if the last couple of months.

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hhm wrote:1.Tino, 2.Hami, 3.Taylor, 4.Taibu 5.Waller, 6.Matsi, 7.Elton, 8.Meth, 9.Price, 10.Jarvis 11.Vitori
although 6 & 8 are the only question marks here, i have to agree with foreignfield that Matsi, not even being given an outing, is a highly unlikely choice - it will most probably be FM, and rightly so, let's see what he's got!
Zimfan1 wrote:good to see Tino score a few runs as he really has not been amoungst the runs if the last couple of months.
He seems to up his game considerably on the international stage ... good signs so far!!

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Disgusted Matsi is not in the side.
A talented batsman but a modest, hardworking character, Stuart Matsikenyeri is the third of three school friends from Churchill Boys High School, Harare to represent Zimbabwe in international cricket. - Cricinfo.

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