Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm
Our national team captain is in the side.
Is he? Is Sean Williams playing? Or has the past six months passed you by?

We have, in fact, had three different national team captains since Chamu even last played for the national side. Sean Williams is officially the multi-format captain. Where have you been?

This is no third XI because it is an emerging side.
By very definition the Emerging side is the third side..... National team, 'A' team, Emerging team. In fact you could argue the new U19 boys probably wouldn't even be in the third or fourth side. This team is, pretty demonstrably and unarguably, weaker than the 'A' side we fielded against SA a couple of months ago.
This is the side who make up the national side
Erm, they very literally aren't? We have a separate 17-man squad about to fly to Ireland. Every single person in Namibia is very literally not 'making up the national side'.



It's cool having different opinions. And it's cool being unrelentingly negative about every single thing in the slightest bit related to Zim cricket if thats what you enjoy spending your time doing. But sometimes there are clear facts. Have you been smoking something? Bizarre post really.
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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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zimbos_05 wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:45 pm
The beating they are getting is shambolic.
It's really not. A significantly stronger and more talented South Africa Emerging side got beat in Namibia a couple of months ago. Everyone on this forum predicted we'd get beaten. It's hardly a surprise or a shock.

People living under rocks still think Namibia is some backwater with a few village cricketers lol. I'd bet my house on them qualifying to the Super 12s at the coming world cup.

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:30 pm

Is he? Is Sean Williams playing? Or has the past six months passed you by?

We have, in fact, had three different national team captains since Chamu even last played for the national side. Sean Williams is officially the multi-format captain. Where have you been?
Remind me when Sean Williams was appointed to the role permanently?

Until such a time when someone is appointed in the role permanently, Chamu is our appointed national captain. When Bavuma misses a series, he is still the appointed national captain is he not?
secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:30 pm
By very definition the Emerging side is the third side..... National team, 'A' team, Emerging team. In fact you could argue the new U19 boys probably wouldn't even be in the third or fourth side. This team is, pretty demonstrably and unarguably, weaker than the 'A' side we fielded against SA a couple of months ago.
An emerging side is a different structure. Not the third side. I'm not arguing that it is a great side, but merely trying to dispel this idea that we can be ok with things because it's our "third side"
secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:30 pm
Erm, they very literally aren't? We have a separate 17-man squad about to fly to Ireland. Every single person in Namibia is very literally not 'making up the national side'.

It's cool having different opinions. And it's cool being unrelentingly negative about every single thing in the slightest bit related to Zim cricket if thats what you enjoy spending your time doing. But sometimes there are clear facts. Have you been smoking something? Bizarre post really.
I shouldn't have to explain english structure. When I say they "make up" the side, I mean that these players make up the rest of the side outside of the main picks. I did not say that this is our main side or our first team. If you are arguing that they don't make up the rest then I must have missed when half this side played for the national team at various points over the years.

It's not about being unrelentingly negative, its about being realistic. I will give credit where it is due, and I have done that, but I'm not going to sit here and accept certain things when they clearly are not good enough.
secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:34 pm

It's really not. A significantly stronger and more talented South Africa Emerging side got beat in Namibia a couple of months ago. Everyone on this forum predicted we'd get beaten. It's hardly a surprise or a shock.

People living under rocks still think Namibia is some backwater with a few village cricketers lol. I'd bet my house on them qualifying to the Super 12s at the coming world cup.
I am aware of the SA Emerging series. That was a true SA emerging side. No national team players or national team captains. I'm aware that Namibia is making progress, but for them to score 254 in 20 overs against a side that has players who have played at an international level, and should be training at an international level is shambolic for us. It's not overstating anything, it's clearly a fact, especially as we could only manager 113 in reply.

Losing by 140 runs in a T20 is shambolic, not something that should be expected.

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I don't think Chamu was ever appointed captain? Still the interim limited overs captain unless I missed the announcement.

Sean Williams is the official Test captain but in limited overs he was only filling in the captaincy role for Chamu.

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These results are really quite disastrous. I predict Namibia will be firmly ahead of us in results and rankings within five years.
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Emerging Side is one which includes under 23 or under 25 level domestic performers and under 19s with no international exposure." A "team is one also with domestic performers of all age groups and few with international exposure

Present Emerging side looks more A side then an emerging side and still getting bashed by an associate clearly questions the system. A full member emerging or domestic side should be always ahead of any associate side, as there is a difference between the level of the game.

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Re: Zimbabwe Emerging vs Namibia

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Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:04 pm
secretzimbo wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:44 pm
Rajkumar Sharma wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:32 pm
Shame :lol: Zim with 7 international experienced players getting hammerd by Namibians
Be fair. It’s our third XI getting beat by what is very close to Namibia’s first XI. Away from home.

At least it’s made you happy though! We know how much you hate Zimbabwe and enjoy celebrating every loss!

Chibhabha - 3 test, 107 odis, 36 T20Is
Kasuza - 7 tests
Chari - 7 test, 14 odis, 3 T20Is
Mutumbami - 6 test, 36 odis, 27 T20Is
Mumba - 3 test, 7 odis, 2 T20Is
Ndoluvu - 2 test, 2 odis, 3 T20Is
Akram - 2 T20Is

Thats third string side for you :lol:

Now if Zim needs Taylor & co.to defeat teams like Namibia, who is an associate side,hardly plays top level cricket, then there is a serious issue with talents.

Excuse is just a joke
I agree with Raj. Zimbabwe should not need main players to beat Namibia, in addition to that the manner of defeat was quite astounding. I will be OK if it is a close game at least.

If you are saying that these players like Chamu, Chari, Akram, Mutambami are not up to it, then folks, they should not be in Emerging players side. Please understand when you represent your national side you carry a lot of responsibility. Just can't step out there for the sake of it and put up a dismal performance.

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This tour was just bad timing guys. It is quite clear that if Namibia beat SA emerging then the weakest side we can send would be our "A" side. Had there been no COVID you would have had Wes, Myers, Shumba, Marumani, Jongwe, Musakanda and Burl in Namibia and flying straight to Europe from there.

We don't have any bench strength at all. This is what Rajput has been arguing about. Our A side and national side are basically one big squad. We don't have an emerging squad. Those are u19s and rejects. An emerging squad would be like the rising stars (u19 graudates plus a few extras) but we have a situation where the rising stars ( Myers, Shumba, Wes and Marumani) have been absorbed straight into the bigger picture because of a lack of depth.

All that being said I expected them to lose but to lose by 140 runs in a t20 is like losing by 300 runs in an ODI. That is unacceptable when you have 7 or 8 senior players. Rejects or not

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We should give chance to kaitano, gumbie, Garethchirawu, williammashinge,Tony munygonga I think this is emerging squad..chamu, chari, mutambami, ndlovu, akram these players should stop cricket

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Yvmnaidu wrote:
Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:37 am
We should give chance to kaitano, gumbie, Garethchirawu, williammashinge,Tony munygonga I think this is emerging squad..chamu, chari, mutambami, ndlovu, akram these players should stop cricket
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