sscricket wrote:NCube is suited for one dayers where someone can support him from the other end or get help from the pitch. He is not a test match bowler. If he is getting only two wickets at domestic level per game he is simply not good enough for tests. Meth is a matchwinner who should get his much deserved chance in tests purely on the basis of what he has done at the domestic level which is winning games single handedly.
Ncube got a couple of wickets but that was only because the batsmen were going after him. It is shocking the selectors cannot see who the
better bowler is. In a test match situation I can see Meth tormenting batsmen for long periods. You cannot see him off like in one dayers....The
attack looks totally one dimensional, no swing no reverse swing no turn. NZ will not lose this game even though their attack is equally worse. Any first
class side from Aus or South Africa will beat NZ...Chakabwa should be playing club cricket. I dont understand how he has played so many games....
Average bowlers or batsmen will never win you a test match.
sscricket I see you say you're an Indian supporter. I take it you're Indian then right? Whatever the case might be, this is exactly what this forum needs, people who based on what they witness before their eyes, can come in and expose the fallacies which certain sections here choose to campaign for against the course of realism. First of all, depending on how much you know of the above mentioned players, I'd like argue and say Jarvis has the makings to go on and be a champion bowler, while Ncube's determination and talent will get him there at some point, and Chakabva for all his deficiencies does look promising - Mutizwa and even our great Brendan Taylor hardly look as solid and composed as he is at the crease sometimes, he may never be as good, but he has the raw ingredients. Age is on their side.Jarvis is overrated. He bowls straight overpitched deliveries. Any batsman worth his salt should punish him.
However, I totally agree that Jarvis (and Ncube & Chakabva) should not be playing at Test level, not even for Zimbabwe at any point right now. They neither have the pedigree to show that they are capable wicket takers in the longer format throughout a FC season, neither have they displayed that they have the required skill to trouble batsmen at this level. Indeed, any batsman worth his salt should bludgeon them, and so it shall be for the next few years. I take delight in the fact that you rate Meth despite his lack of pace - a clear sign that you are not fooled by a bowler's lack of pace. Meth has proven himself many a time at FC level, but as far as bowlers and batsmen are concerned our colleagues (and clearly the selectors as well) do not take such things into consideration - they go on what appears convincing to the eye never mind it's authentcity when put under the microscope. We have a few players who are more primed to deliver at this stage, better than both Meth & Mutizwa, but instead many are happy to be blinded by the odd and infrequent spells of good performances, which these unqualified finds of ours come up with against watered down opposition, and simply leave the rest to fate!
Now as for Waller FlowerPower, surely you could have put it better. Try 'stupid and inexperienced' instead of 'unselfish and naive'! That's unforgivable. If he was within grabbing distance of AC, judging form his commentary at that point, I'm pretty sure he would've punched him! Such basics are absorbed at club level let alone FC!
True Elton, Cremer and Meth's batting is overrated. Anything bowlers add on the scoreboard is a bonus. I say it time and again, judging from the standard of our top order itself, it is a travesty to even expect our tail to wag. From the little I've seen, I also think Vitori can land some useful nasty blows. Regarding your summation of his 'namesake' Vettori - spot on!
Junior power, keeping Patel in would've been a masterstroke on our part the more time he spends at the crease with less runs added on the board, the greater a chance we would have had of drawing this one! Our captain certainly didn't see it that way. He probably thinks this is Bangladesh and he can be as bold as that declaration he made.
and put a defensive field.
