[Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:28 am
From Cricinfo:
sohel0415: "Interesting fact: tiripano has more runs and higher average than chari in same number of test"
I'm backing DT to do well here actually. I didn't see any of today's play but given so many runs were scored I'm guessing the pitch is still decent to bat on. I'm backing the Don in here.
In fact, his first class batting average is slightly higher as well!

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grant wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:13 pm
brmtaylor.com admin wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:28 am
From Cricinfo:
sohel0415: "Interesting fact: tiripano has more runs and higher average than chari in same number of test"
I'm backing DT to do well here actually. I didn't see any of today's play but given so many runs were scored I'm guessing the pitch is still decent to bat on. I'm backing the Don in here.
In fact, his first class batting average is slightly higher as well!
Says it all..

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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The interesting thing about Chari is that every coach has picked him over the years despite his first class average not being the greatest. Almost like PJ and his List A average. He must be doing something right in training. He didnt look too bad today to be fair. In the end he is out there representing Zimbabwe so we all want him to do well

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TapsC wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:35 pm
The interesting thing about Chari is that every coach has picked him over the years despite his first class average not being the greatest. Almost like PJ and his List A average. He must be doing something right in training. He didnt look too bad today to be fair. In the end he is out there representing Zimbabwe so we all want him to do well
We do want him to do well, of course. But it's just frustratingly obvious that he's not a test match opener and really shouldn't be there in the first place.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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I love Test cricket. I'd like to see us at 2/200 by stumps tomorrow.

Chari 30 from 100 balls.
Tiripano 80 not out from 330.
Taylor 65 not out from 160.

Invoke Faf and de Villiers! Obviously the likelihood of this happening is zero, we're more likely to be 7/40 than 2/200 :lol:

Only one thing matters in this match, and it's batting time. Obviously we need to get to 322 but if we bat for long enough that will happen anyway.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am
Zimbabwe have shut down shop very early. I don't mind it much, but I always feel it is good to keep scoring runs as you will bat out time anyways. Saving the follow on in itself will make it difficult for Bangladesh to push for a win as they will have to bat again.

Now two or three quick wickets and you find you don't have too much on the board anyways.
If they just cross the follow on, we could declare right away and try for the win.

Even 323 is a pretty hefty score on a turning wicket.
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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:25 pm
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am
Zimbabwe have shut down shop very early. I don't mind it much, but I always feel it is good to keep scoring runs as you will bat out time anyways. Saving the follow on in itself will make it difficult for Bangladesh to push for a win as they will have to bat again.

Now two or three quick wickets and you find you don't have too much on the board anyways.
If they just cross the follow on, we could declare right away and try for the win.

Even 323 is a pretty hefty score on a turning wicket.
Yep, I agree.
I'm personally quite happy Bangladesh have come back from their defeat so well, so far. I know we all support Zim, but when these two aren't playing I'm a massive fan of the tigers and have followed them a lot since the 2015 CWC, as Krit knows.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:25 pm
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am
Zimbabwe have shut down shop very early. I don't mind it much, but I always feel it is good to keep scoring runs as you will bat out time anyways. Saving the follow on in itself will make it difficult for Bangladesh to push for a win as they will have to bat again.

Now two or three quick wickets and you find you don't have too much on the board anyways.
If they just cross the follow on, we could declare right away and try for the win.

Even 323 is a pretty hefty score on a turning wicket.
If you declare just after we avoid the follow-on wont we need less than 200 to win with another 10 wickets? Thats a bit risky. Remember that test in Wellington where Bangladesh scored almost 600 in the first innings but still lost after NZ needed 200 odd to win on the final day?

I know its a different country and different pitch but Bangladesh would surely add another 100 runs which is basically a session if we avoid the follow on. Psychologically less than 200 needed can inspire an ODI kind of counter-attack just like I think it was Kane Willamson did for NZ that test with a century in under a 100 deliveries. Very risky. Your bowlers would be tired as well

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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sloandog wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:41 pm
Kriterion_BD wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:25 pm
sam_ahm wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:10 am
Zimbabwe have shut down shop very early. I don't mind it much, but I always feel it is good to keep scoring runs as you will bat out time anyways. Saving the follow on in itself will make it difficult for Bangladesh to push for a win as they will have to bat again.

Now two or three quick wickets and you find you don't have too much on the board anyways.
If they just cross the follow on, we could declare right away and try for the win.

Even 323 is a pretty hefty score on a turning wicket.
Yep, I agree.
I'm personally quite happy Bangladesh have come back from their defeat so well, so far. I know we all support Zim, but when these two aren't playing I'm a massive fan of the tigers and have followed them a lot since the 2015 CWC, as Krit knows.
Yup I like Bangla boys too, such an enthusiastic cricketing nation as well, but as of now Zimbabwe need all the wins they can get, so I'm with Zimbos!

Regarding the declaration, I think Bangladesh will try to bat around 2 sessions shoukd Zim avoid the follow on, declaring immediately will be too big a risk, and tgey'd want some rest for the bowlers as well.

First things first though, Zimbabwe shouldn't collapse tomorrow morning, hoping for a solid first session.

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Re: [Match Thread] Bangladesh vs Zimbabwe, 2nd Test, Dhaka

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We need a draw they need a win so we’re not under declaring any time soon.
Back to the Tiripano vs Chari stats issue- that’s really bizarre. We don’t have the “luxury” of a proper Franchise system where the stats are a reliable indication of ability, so you need someone with a good, and unprejudiced eye that can identify someone with the ability to play up.
I’ve watched Burl for a while, not closely, but enough to see that he’s a very talented guy. It’s a stretch putting Brian ahead of him. They have to think ahead. In a few short years we’re going to have at least three of our senior guys resigning and then you’ll have someone like Burl who’s missed out for the last three years and has become bang average because he hasn’t had the exposure. The big question is do they give a shit?

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